Increase Server Capacity

[tocsin]

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the character creation restrictions are in place, as a deterrent for people wanting to overload an already overpopulated server. its an incentive to join one of the many other, slightly smaller servers. What they really need to do, is permanently close character creation when the population is over a certain amount, and offer free transfers to less populated servers. if someone leaves, one new character can be created.

either that, or, better, make it a cash shop item. you want to make a new char on balmung? $50 extra. THAT, is a cash shop item I would support.

[Vespar]

A free world transfer week may also help so players could disperse freely to less populated servers without having to spend $20.

[Gardes]

Maybe all y'all in balmung need to stop erping so hard.

Get off the server once you're done getting off.

[Roris]

A World Pass would actually be a legit thing to put on the cash shop, seems like a big missed opportunity there. Another thing that would be great is cross server parties like a lot of other MMOs have, maybe when they actually upgrade their hamster wheel server infrastructure, if ever.

[LunaHoshino]

its an incentive to join one of the many other, slightly smaller servers.

That's not what happens, though. What happens is that people who are joining because they want to play with their friends eventually end up just giving up on playing the game. I have personally seen three people do this exact thing-- they wanted to join Balmung because their friends were there, and after a week of trying they finally gave up and decided the game wasn't worth the trouble.

The advice of "well then the people who are already on Balmung should just go to a new server" is quite short-sighted. A lot of people don't really feel like grinding a brand-new character all the way through the story again, and as things stand, world transfers are $18 or so. There's all the incentive in the world for them NOT to leave Balmung, meaning that there's no incentive for the people who want to play with their friends to pick another world either.

[Velox]

A server transfer isn't really THAT expensive though. I mean, you pay $13 a month minimum for non-legacy ($10 legacy IIRC). That's $156 ($120) a year. Now the average "dedicated" MMORPG user (the non-hoppers) will play a single MMO for about 3-4 years (consecutive and non-consecutive) before finally moving on to another game. Assuming 3 years to be conservative, that's $468 ($360) that you will have put into FFXIV if you stick around for that long, not counting cash-shop purchases. Suddenly a measly $18 doesn't look like much does it? Hell, if your so financially strapped that $18 pushes you over your yearly budget for necessities, you probably shouldn't even BE playing a subscription-based game. Instead, focus on your real-life priorities immediately! Think of it this way, let's say that $18 for a server transfer was part of your monthly sub. That comes to only $1.50 a month. So for a single server transfer, you're basically getting a year's worth of subscription time for $14.50 a month. Wow, must be breaking the bank here! That's still cheaper than WoW and other p2p MMOs.

"But Velox, I shouldn't have to spend $18 to join my friends on another server, they should be able to come to me!"
So you're basically admitting that your friends aren't worth $18? Between ALL of them? Hell, I spent ~$240 between my friends JUST in Christmas gifts alone this past month.

[Raist]

That's not what happens, though. What happens is that people who are joining because they want to play with their friends eventually end up just giving up on playing the game. I have personally seen three people do this exact thing-- they wanted to join Balmung because their friends were there, and after a week of trying they finally gave up and decided the game wasn't worth the trouble.

The advice of "well then the people who are already on Balmung should just go to a new server" is quite short-sighted. A lot of people don't really feel like grinding a brand-new character all the way through the story again, and as things stand, world transfers are $18 or so. There's all the incentive in the world for them NOT to leave Balmung, meaning that there's no incentive for the people who want to play with their friends to pick another world either.

There is another side to the situation that you are neglecting though... those that have moved to servers to be with their friends, or worse rolled new characters--because it was more important to them that they enjoy the game with their RL friends. I and some of my peeps fall into that category.

I was one of 3 in my FFXI primary LS that were in the original beta... I'm talking 1.0 and not 2.0. We were on different servers though. I didn't have much invested in that character, so when I got into Beta4 I ditched it to try to join people on Hyperion but was too late to get in after the patching and crud when it opened, so one of my other friends that never played XIV at all and I made characters on Midgard together and started farting around... finding creative ways to die, killing each other off on impossible fights and all. Why not? We were continually trying to get into Hyperion after all to be with other people we knew, and this would give him a chance to get comfortable with the different feel of the UI from XI as well before we had to get serious.

Well... it never happened. One guy managed to get a foot in the door, but we couldn't. We managed to scratch our way up the ladder a bit, had our own little LS with just friends, and had gotten into an FC. Eventually, we gave up on Hyperion and when they opened up the server transfers people jumped to Midgard and we got to endgame together and had a blast.

There is something they can do that will allow them and their friends to play together. Some may not feel compelled to make the sacrifice, others will. Apparently it isn't important enough to them to jump worlds or roll a new character. It's a shame too. Think about it... they would be starting out from scratch and could really benefit from their friend's experience with the game. Be that with a new character or with a transferred one. I mean, they were willing to shell out the cash to not only buy the game but also subscribe for a monthly fee in order to play with a friend... and said friend isn't willing to at least roll a new character on another world to play with them?

Sounds kinda like a fair-weather friend to me, which begs the question of people's sincerity on the issue...

And therein lies the rub. Everyone talks a big game about being upset about friends not being able to join them. Well, if it really was such a big deal breaker for them, they could reroll or transfer... but they aren't doing either. And so the problem persists where there are too many people on one side of the scale, so SE keeps locking up their servers trying to balance the population out amongst the less populated worlds. There is a potential solution that can be implemented by the players... just not enough people are willing to bite the bullet I guess?

[Ashren]

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You're neglecting Option C, the people who already have a large number of real life friends and school mates who are already playing on that server who are trying to get a few more friends and school mates into the game. Sure, if it's only one person with little or no ties to a server it's probably not that big a deal to ask them to transfer to a lesser population server, but what about when it's 10 or more people trying to get 3-4 people onto the server? Is it fair for all 10 of those people to have to shell out $18 each? What if they were from Australia and it's closer to $30 each?

Playing on a server for a long period of time, even if we assume you started with 2.0 and stuck to one server, is a serious investment for many. You become familiar with the server economy, you know the guild politics and you network, make friends, find people you are comfortable playing with. Most friends would just rather not play the game than make their friends start over and waste years of time and investment.

[Evergrey]

With the new expac coming out soon, I can only imagine that things will get worse with new players drawn in, returning players coming back, and the overall increased activity of current players.
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If I were the only person who felt this way, then I'd be happy to just pack up my things and leave, but that isn't the case, and thus the problem isn't mine. The ball is in SEs court to fix an issue that numerous players are having

Sooo... you want to invite your new players to an already over-pop server. But at the same time admit (imagine) that things will get worse with new players drawn in.
But, aren't you a part of the problem by wanting to draw in new players aswell?
To me it feels like you are missing that part.

Sure, it is not your fault alone. But I dont think SE locks down servers for the fun of it.
The problem lies with the Balmung community, the part that refuses to see other options then what they want.

Make an alt on a different server to play with your friends. It's not like you'll never have time to play with your main character again.

[Raist]

You're neglecting Option C, the people who already have a large number of real life friends and school mates who are already playing on that server who are trying to get a few more friends and school mates into the game. Sure, if it's only one person with little or no ties to a server it's probably not that big a deal to ask them to transfer to a lesser population server, but what about when it's 10 or more people trying to get 3-4 people onto the server? Is it fair for all 10 of those people to have to shell out $18 each? What if they were from Australia and it's closer to $30 each?

Not neglecting it... just had nothing to do with Luna's post, which was making the point about 1 person. And I did not restrict it to just the $18 transfer either, which is what you are arguing.

You are conveniently leaving out the option of rolling a new character on their server. My subscription allows me to have 1 character per server. You can roll a new character for FREE.

Did you not even ponder the point made later in the post... that if more people weren't digging in their heels insisting that the new players come to their server that it might eventually help to balance the population somewhat. Possibly even to the point that SE might loosen the reigns on character creation?

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Playing on a server for a long period of time, even if we assume you started with 2.0 and stuck to one server, is a serious investment for many. You become familiar with the server economy, you know the guild politics and you network, make friends, find people you are comfortable playing with. Most friends would just rather not play the game than make their friends start over and waste years of time and investment.

Again... rolling a new toon does not kill your access to all your progress on your current server. There are many players that already have multiple characters. I had friends in XI that did the same as well. It killed me when Neza's character got corrupted on Carbuncle and we lost it completely--restore failed. She was gone for months waiting for them to recover her account, but couldn't. While she was away, she started playing more with other friends on other servers and when she finally bit the bullet and rolled a new toon on Carby, we all busted our butts to help her rebuild.

That's what real friends do. If it's important enough... they find a way.