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  1. #11
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    Vivaea's Avatar
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    Vivaea Zhan
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Which server are you on? If Cerberus I'm willing to give you a hand.

    Apart from that, what previous poster said about not having enough touches is key. Are you using food when crafting? Hq boullabaise will take you to 395 cp which gives you a lot extra to work with.

    For progress I personally prefer rapid synth x3 + 1 careful synth for 3 star. Some will disagree with me on that though.

    I use all hasty touches unless I have a ton of cp to burn, I can hit mm2 twice and refresh cz twice most of the time depending on ToT procs. I haven't actually made the tools as I've only mastered ltw and wvr so far but from what I understand they're a standard 3 star synth?
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  2. #12
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Artisan offhands are the same as 3* crafts, its just that their starting quality pool is incredibly diluted by the sealants (you'd only get 600/4900 max).

    I think people have mentioned this; there is no "set rotation" for 3 and 4* crafts due to how CP intensive it can get. However, your starting rotation (CZ and inner quiet) as well as progress abilties should always use the same amount of abilities to finish (such as 1 PbP, 2 RS and 1 CSII). When you can forecast how many steps you need to finish a craft, you can use the rest of your durability on quality increase.

    >TotT whenever possible for CP.
    > Refresh CZ whenever it falls off, unless you can TotT on that particular step.
    > Always keep SHII for hasty and rapid syn
    > Ideally you should have enough CP to do two durability restoration abilities (one of them being MMII) Always reserve at least 96 CP for your BB finisher (innovation, SH, GS, BB). Keep this in mind when you decide between MMII or manipulation
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  3. #13
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    Katchoo Choovanski
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    This is the general rotation i use for 3 stars. Bare in mind this does not show ToT procks as i tend to change them up depending on how many i get. I never use ToT during the Waste Not phase. If i hit enough ToT in the early stages i will swap out Waste Not for a second Master Mend 2. I like to roll the dice at the start and use PbP without Steady Hands up, this saves me CP especially if i hit some ToT.

    http://link.ffxivcrafter.com/?id=cbcgQ
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  4. #14
    Player xPeAcEx's Avatar
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    Zyra Zephyr
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by firstsin View Post
    SNiP
    Your stats are more than enough, you don't need a supra. Make sure to use all HQ mats and bouillabaisse so you have 395cp.

    You rotation doesn't work because it is very cp intensive.

    make sure to use ToT when it proc's

    CZ
    IQ
    SHII
    3x RS
    HT's if stacks left
    SHII + HTs till at 20 or 10 dura, remember to repop CZ and use MMII

    Use HTs to run out of any stacks left on SHII

    SHII = ToT if it proc'd, then WNII. Use HT till SHII runs out, do not use ToT

    You should have 4 stacks of WNII left, depending on cp left, decide if you can afford a SHII and you can afford to use 1 ToT, make sure to end it on x5 dura.

    Run HTs until you are at 25 dura. SH + GS + Innovation (ONLY if cp allows), if condition is not good or excellent, use CSII which gives you a chance to proc good/excellent. Regardless, you should have 9 or more stacks and this will take you to 85%+.

    use CSII to finish synth.

    Something like this: http://link.ffxivcrafter.com/?id=cbchh Also crafter is a terrible site since the stats are off.
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    Last edited by xPeAcEx; 12-28-2014 at 06:01 PM.

  5. #15
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    Alkaid Gainsborough
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Happy 2015 everyone.

    With all of your help, advice and support i was finally able to craft a High Quality Artisan's File.



    I used a variation of the following rotation.

    No matter what I tried I had to still rely on RNG so I decided I might as well go full RNG and if I mess up I'll reclaim and hope for the best.

    I got lucky with my 2xPBP and 5xHT as well as 5xToT. Unfortunately I could not get a Good or an Excellent condition for BB. But since I was able to gain an extra 100 CP I topped up with few extra touches before finishing.

    Still after everything I was lucky and managed to HQ it.

    Can't think of a better way to start 2015 in Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn.

    Thank you all.
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  6. #16
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    Vivaea Zhan
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    Great job! Happy 2015
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  7. #17
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    Pande Monium
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    I use this

    http://link.ffxivcrafter.com/?id=cbcmW

    Just only need 2 ToT to be completed. If you get more tot, you can use basic touch instead of hasty. It's not necessary to say if you don't get enough IQ charge, use reclaim .
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    Gratz on making your offhand

    Though be warned that rotation you listed, is very bad and you were lucky to HQ with it tbh.

    If you follow what RiceisNice had said and practice on something cheap (wolfram ingots maybe), you'll get much better at making these.
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  9. #19
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    Zealotius Arkimedes
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    Gungnir
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Get someone to make it for you. Check the MB Sale History on the HQ off hands and track them down (if you know them of course). I started out thinking I was going to collect all the mats and make all the Artisan O/H but once I heard the RNG stories.....

    So I started selling sealants and buying the HQ items, thats when I checked and realised I knew someone who does HQ, I approached her with all the materials and she makes it for free (I tried to tip), whereas I would still be selling sealants and losing a LOT of money.
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  10. #20
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    Alkaid Gainsborough
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    Spriggan
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    The rotation was put together in the event ToT not landing at the right time and being able to reclaim in the last minute. But I will definitely modify the rotation to add some more touches.

    @NationOfZealots It's more of a pride thing. It's true I can ask the other craters on my server to craft the stuff I want but that forces me to miss out on learning about crafting even more.
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    Last edited by firstsin; 01-03-2015 at 01:49 AM. Reason: grammer

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