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    Player
    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    Wait for Protect!
    Swifcast + Stokeskin!
    Succor and Go!!!
    All together takes 3 seconds, can't you wait?
    For me, Succor is about making a small shield and also to say "ready! go!"
    And yes, i am mad healer when the tank goes and protect is not even on
    grrrrrrrrrrr
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Saevel's Avatar
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    Saevel Azarin
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Having Stoneskin and Galvanize on the tank also allows you to put off healing them (even for a short time) while they generate enmity on the target. In this day and age where most tanks won't even wait for Protect, be happy if you get one that waits for buffs and cast them.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Funny enough, with all the light farming / speed runs I've run into in DF, I usually DON'T have time to prebuff anyone during a pull.

    With that said, you should try to prebuff when you can, since it helps mitigate a little bit. Of course only when you can and it doesn't risk pulling hate as the tank may be pulling a pack just as you buff / shield them.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Yes I know OP is a SCH after someone else pointed it out already. Swiftcast also negates waiting.
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    Ulf Hednasch
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Blessedbythesun View Post
    -OP-
    You're fine, forget the whiners. Just as long as you keep them alive, it's all the same really. I have a feeling I piss of a lot of healers when I don't wait for Stoneskin in Trials, but 9 times out of 10, neither does the other tank either, so do what is easiest for you.
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    Alexa Nubara
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    Gilgamesh
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Nothing like an adloquium or succor crit prior before the tank pulling, lets me CS dot, shadow flare and bane targets. In a raid or dungeon with aoe settings, a lot of stuff can happen in 30 seconds so I succor prior to it and e4e the tank to ease my stress lol. SS is rarely used as people like to speed run a lot, so I use succor to speed it up.
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    Dreipha Carvos
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    In my opinion the only time when Stoneskin is a must as a pre-buff is in a boss fight where damage to someone who is not the tank is pretty much guaranteed to happen. In fights like that I like to put Stoneskin up before the fight to give me a little breathing room. It typically frees me up to do something besides spamming Cure/Cure 2 trying to heal the dps with spot heals earlier in the fight. Also if the tank is going to whine just give him what he wants. There have been plenty of times that I have LONGED for a tank to slow down so I can pre-buff on a fight I thought needed it but they wouldn't. If you are getting asked to pre-buff just let them have it at least they recognize that it is useful even if they are being a little obsessive.
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    Limsa, where else would i get the salt
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    Character
    Thy A'
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    aslong as the tank doesn't die while doing his job, don't worry about it.
    As a white mage, i do it in dungeons while running with a swift cast, but before Stoneskin2, never bothered
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    Kikori Lyehga
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Tanks in my roulette runs seem to be hitting some pretty big extremes on how much preparation they actually want when I'm running. I've seen numerous that start rushing forward without waiting for Protect (let alone any other mitigation), and never once give time for anything in between pulls. The best I can hope for is a Swiftcast-Stoneskin II between pulls. The other seem to match the original poster's description of shaking in their boots until they have every ounce of prevention possible. These days, the former is more common.
    My opinion? I'll cast it if I know you need it. You don't need it if we only have three measly enemies ahead before a brick wall. You could use it if we have a potential huge pull ahead, or high hitting magic damage mobs.
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
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    As a SCH main I don't understand why you wouldn't Adlo/SS before a boss.

    Even just as a healer main I don't understand it. Some of you here seem either too lazy to press the extra buttons, or think the mitigation is too costly or something. Placing Adlo/SS on before a boss reduces the amount of damage the tank will take, meaning you have to heal less in the beginning and it gives you time to do other things. Its not like you don't have the time or resources for it and the extra time can be spent on applying your DoTs instead of having to cancel your DPSing to heal, or waiting until later to apply DoTs.

    It may not be necessary but it is inefficient to not prebuff your tank before boss fights. If that's how you play though, then fine.
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