If your gonna nerf content...

[MeiUshu]

to inform someone that being too many as a soak team in T5 (2 fairies, two pets, the tank and one player + the one affected by the debuff) is a problem when *cornflakes* is out, especially if DPS is very slow and itw as..I was called ignorant, although I know that portion in and out up and down since I have done it more then 95x so far. Granted I dont know beyond the death of snakes...but that portion I know it for sure.

calling someone bad just because eh or she fails constantly is a very dumb comment, when you are in a group is either the whole group failure or whole group success, no such thing as a bad player but such thing as bad team....or good team...see the point?

You can stil nerf it to the ground if you are in inexperienced team or *bad * group, you will fail no matter how good you are, or rather your team will fail, independent of whether you as a single player know the fight or dont know the fight. People want to play in a group but when it goes bad is the fault of the other person rathr then the whole that was not able to compensate other's people weakness...which is also a way of seeing a group..but is me

Mei

[Razzle]

I dfed up to t8. of course some were abandoned, and some took more than few tries, but it sure IS dfable...

[Maero]

Answer to this post, NO
Enough nerfs for gods sake, just get a group together and practice.

[Elazu]

Answer to this post, NO
Enough nerfs for gods sake, just get a group together and practice.

That would require effort on TC's part though.

[Prototype909]

Yeah, it's weird how a game about socializing encourages players to form introverted, anti-social groups in order to clear content that only reach out to outsiders in exchange for money...

Blame the duty system in general, multiple different types of lockouts and fight design where one person messing up can make everyone else wipe for that.

[Kaisha]

They did change twisters from how they where originally in T5, pre echo/2.2. As originally turn 5 twisters were evil :P

You forget the netcode was even worse back then. Player positions were updated three times a second back then, rather than the ten times per second that was added in 2.1to some instances, and then 2.2 later adding it to the rest of the game.

So strict dodge timing + only reading your position three times a second spells disaster if the twister so happened to spawn on the tail-end of your dodging motion.


As for T6, all the instant-kill mechanics were removed, the debuff stacks in last phase also deal zero damage which makes the joke an absolute joke to heal, and add in the fact people are DFing it in full 110-120 gear rather than when it originally came out with us doing it in i90 gear, all add up to an easily zerged battle assuming folks are handling the devour mechanic. Everything else can be ignored.

[matt246688]

@OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

[LionKing]

Moral of the story: DF is bad because it is made of players and not all players who have half of their brain functioned properly. It is not the nerfing contents fault, it is player's fault for not using their brain, their judgment and their knowledge.

Heck, one healer complained about Brayflox lv 30 being so hard. Hax....