Rich & Poor

[Kataz]

I agree that the cash shop is a bit of an insult on top of a monthly subscription fee. There is a lot about it I disagree with and pretty much hate. 24 bucks for Odins mount? How about instead of just getting your name under Odin's for getting the killing blow, you earn that mount in game for getting the killing blow. Why not make all the metallic paint obtainable from retainer ventures? What SE has done is created an additional pay wall to a game we already pay a monthly fee to participate in. The only part of the cash shop that I think is alright is getting last years seasonal stuff. I dislike that I missed out on the ghost costume from last years halloween event, but if I missed it enough to spend 5 bucks on it, I have the option. I was on my honeymoon during whatever reason there was to release the Huzzah emote, so I missed that. I'd throw 50 cents at SE to have access to that.

What worries me is that my wife played another SE game called Wakfu. They introduced a cash shop on top of a monthly fee with the same premise as FFXIV's shop - that it only sells frills. Well, she said it ended up selling gear and shortcuts and ultimately killed the game. I never played, and the game looked like something from the Super Nintendo days so I was fairly surprised to hear it had a subscription cost at all, but a cash shop on top of it sounded like SE trying to get all the cash they can from a sinking ship.

[Eye_Gore]

if SE sees it as a cash cow.

If? It is a cash cow, people will happily spend the extra money. If they didn't SE would just take it down. Like Gil sellers, they keep on advertising because people keep on buying.

How about instead of just getting your name under Odin's for getting the killing blow, you earn that mount in game for getting the killing blow.

Bit off topic here. How many times has Odin spawned? Has any one taken him down? I've only been playing since April, only seen him once. There had to be over 100 people there and after 15 minutes his health was only down to half. Someone made a comment " half health at 15 minutes, not bad". I was like wow he almost seems unbeatable, so many people would have to be there that he probably wouldn't even render, like when hunts came out. Thought it was a bit much.

[Kataz]

Bit off topic here. How many times has Odin spawned? Has any one taken him down? I've only been playing since April, only seen him once. There had to be over 100 people there and after 15 minutes his health was only down to half. Someone made a comment " half health at 15 minutes, not bad". I was like wow he almost seems unbeatable, so many people would have to be there that he probably wouldn't even render, like when hunts came out. Thought it was a bit much.

Eh, not really off topic. Things in the cash shop should have an in game way of obtaining them. 24 bucks for Odins pony or be the one who scores a killing blow on the guy. I've been to a bunch of Odin kills, none recently because like the hunts, the items you get from Odin are no longer relevant. But give people a chance to earn his pony and I think you'll see a higher turn out for him.

[Sinroth]

If Gambling packs are EVER introduced into this game I will unsub immediately. If there was anything that was morally wrong with cash shops it would be just that. There would be no justification to include them here other than greed, and that is not a justifiable reason.

As an example SWTOR lives off of their gambling packs, not subscriptions, so it's their necessity have them in there to survive. Thats how badly that game is messed up and badly designed. Suckers drop hundreds and hundreds of dollars on gambling packs per person ever month.

It's the worst display of development gone wrong lets bleed players to keep our jobs without fixing anything I've ever seen.

But I really blame the players on this one for letting them. Don't let gambling packs be a part of FFXIV.

[m3eansean]

Everything should be obtainable through in game grinding, EVERYTHING.

That is all. Thank you.