SMN mp needs sorting out

[Sparktacus]

Paeon is, as you are obviously aware of, a dps-loss for the bard, which counts as a someone sacrificing their damage output for the sake of sustainability. How big of a dps-loss is using Energy drain over Fester anyway? Especially if you make sure to only use Energy Drain when you know that your MP isn't going to overflow from it and Aetherflow.

Bard does not count with the other dps as by its nature it is meant to take dps loss, it is written in the description of specific songs. It is a support class, summoner is not (and just having res does not make it so). Bard is supposed to have dps loss every other dps class is not.

I looked through your achievements and see you haven't completed 2nd coil which means you haven't been into final coil yet. As this issue in particular is targeted to final coil summoners I am not sure you truly grasp the depth of this issue.

[Mholito]

I looked through your achievements and see you haven't completed 2nd coil which means you haven't been into final coil yet. As this issue in particular is targeted to final coil summoners I am not sure you truly grasp the depth of this issue.

I am just trying to provide alternative solutions to the problem. Whether or not I have participated in Final Coil is irrelevant.

[Viridiana]

I am just trying to provide alternative solutions to the problem. Whether or not I have participated in Final Coil is irrelevant.

Except your alternate solution is to cut back on DPS. When groups are clearing as the boss enrages, that's simply not an option.

[Mholito]

Except your alternate solution is to cut back on DPS. When groups are clearing as the boss enrages, that's simply not an option.

Wouldn't a small cutback on dps for the sake of better sustainability result in better overall dps? Doing slightly less damage for the sake of never having any complete downtime.

[Viridiana]

Wouldn't a small cutback on dps for the sake of better sustainability result in better overall dps? Doing slightly less damage for the sake of never having any complete downtime.

If you absolutely must take a SMN? Maybe. Know what would be even better for DPS? Taking a BLM.

[Sapphic]

Wouldn't a small cutback on dps for the sake of better sustainability result in better overall dps? Doing slightly less damage for the sake of never having any complete downtime.

As Virdinia said, you could do that, but why when you can take a BLM which has 100% sustainability with zero downtimes to refresh mana?

Whilst pushing progression in FCoB DPS checks are that tight that every single point of DPS from the party matters until you start to over gear it and still it is pretty tight. That small cutback from SMN can make or break a clear.

[Sleigh]

I am just trying to provide alternative solutions to the problem. Whether or not I have participated in Final Coil is irrelevant.

If the problem was purely just staying afloat on MP, that's no issue, there are ways to do that: MP pots, cutting back on R2 entirely after opener, selective stopping of Ruin, Energy Drain, etc.

The problem is maintaining competitive DPS compared to the other DPS roles while managing those things, and currently, that's just not happening; the TP users are all taken care of together, and BLM doesn't need help, so those guys can go full blast and do their already higher DPS. Whether or not SMN needs a damage buff or not (I think it does from my experience but that's not important), it simply can't transmit its damage in FCoB as much as everyone else can.