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    Mature Rudlum
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    SMN mp needs sorting out

    It's been long enough by far. Mp for smn is way too low compared to any other magic class out there. I feel that I cannot complete my rotations in certain turns (t10 a clear example) this is either a sorting of increasing MP to 400 or lowering the cost of casting or certain instances need a break ( t9 an example)

    Drgs got they way but this Smn discussion has been going for longer that I can imagine. Sure smn is top class dps but that doesn't mean we gonna keep it tat way. Might as well go sch dps for more dots less fester.....

    This really needs sorting
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    KitanaiKoneko's Avatar
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    Luise Maynard
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    SMN mana is fine. Unless you want to use fester.
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    Wobble Wibblewobb
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    I kind of agree here seeing how some in our raid group run low. Of course no one takes into account that they are not only DPS but they help us healers with raising which is a large chunk of mp. Not sure what Kit means unless you want to use fester, should you not always use fester?
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    SE has to do something about the Summoner. There are almost no Summoners doing endgame anymore because no one wants to take them into FCOB. Final Fantasy XIV has the same problem with Summoner that WoW had with the Warlock ever since the Cataclysm Expansion. Looking at WoW the only thing SE can do with the Summoner is overhaul it into something completely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    It's been long enough by far. Mp for smn is way too low compared to any other magic class out there. I feel that I cannot complete my rotations in certain turns (t10 a clear example) this is either a sorting of increasing MP to 400 or lowering the cost of casting or certain instances need a break ( t9 an example)
    You might want to re-think on how you are spending your MP during the encounters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    SE has to do something about the Summoner. There are almost no Summoners doing endgame anymore because no one wants to take them into FCOB.
    There are more SMN doing endgame than you think, and every slot I see with groups setting up FCoB in PF have 2 jobs singled out that they want, both BRD & SMN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nghthawk View Post
    You might want to re-think on how you are spending your MP during the encounters.



    There are more SMN doing endgame than you think, and every slot I see with groups setting up FCoB in PF have 2 jobs singled out that they want, both BRD & SMN.
    If you're talking casuals in PF, maybe. I'm in DnT and do you know how many SMNs we have? Me. Everyone else switched jobs. Same for every other high end guild. Other than myself, EVERY other SMN I knew before this patch is no longer a SMN. If that's not indicative of a class being broken, I don't know what is. SE said they buffed DRG because it was at a point where they were being left out of groups and didn't have a place in them. SMN is in the exact same place.
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    Lalah Elakha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zholi View Post
    If you're talking casuals in PF, maybe. I'm in DnT and do you know how many SMNs we have? Me. Everyone else switched jobs. Same for every other high end guild. Other than myself, EVERY other SMN I knew before this patch is no longer a SMN. If that's not indicative of a class being broken, I don't know what is. SE said they buffed DRG because it was at a point where they were being left out of groups and didn't have a place in them. SMN is in the exact same place.
    Sounds like my experience in FF11. Just cross your fingers SE doesn't attempt the same terrible fixes, which was to add an aura buff to pets, but give a flat out 25% damage reduction to everything you could do.
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Smn not using fester is like playing as a sch dpsing. Having a 300 mp on a fully equipped ilvl110 (even 111) character is just not viable. 400mp is more approachable. I don't think they can lower the cost of casting for spells as sch will be a beast.
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    Blaise Destin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Smn not using fester is like playing as a sch who isn't dpsing.
    fixed \o/.

    I notice I run out of MP on SMN generally when I over use Ruin II which is just a bad habit for me, otherwise, I don't tend to run out that much unless the fight really drags on (even when i bring Hi-Elixirs to pop). I think it'd be nice if they added more potent medicine to be honest.

    Having to use Energy drain in some situations really... really sucks lol. Its like I can feel the Aetherflow charges wasting away as they scream into an abyss of wasted potential ._.

    Edit: And for what its worth if I'm honest with myself, in the last god knows how many Dungeons and Raids and Shivas I've done in the last month or so, I've only encountered like 4 summoners... not including ST/CT though. Summoner just feels like a very rare job to see anymore. I mean, they are there, but for every 1 Summoner, I see about 20 of each other class. EYEBALLS ALL THE EVIDENCE.
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Meanwhile Black Mage is sitting in the corner...

    LOLOLOLOL INFINITE MP POOL LOLOLOL DAT FLARE
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