I fear for Summoner

[Dyvid]

I don't feel their ramp is slow at all, They reach maximum potential not even within 10 seconds of an encounter.

A 60s Enkindle would give them a little more spiky damage, similar to what Ninja has now, it would easily counter the fall that they have.

Well when compared to BLM it's a slow build. To get max output we have cast shadowflare, miasma II, (bio I + bio II + miasma = Fester). So about 12.5? Also SMN really could use more burst damage for encounters like Tam-Tara HM, right now I have to link ruin 2 and ruin > energy drain > ruin which can be deadly I need to kill two or three.

[Lavieh]

Well when compared to BLM it's a slow build. To get max output we have cast shadowflare, miasma II, (bio I + bio II + miasma = Fester). So about 12.5? Also SMN really could use more burst damage for encounters like Tam-Tara HM, right now I have to link ruin 2 and ruin > energy drain > ruin which can be deadly I need to kill two or three.

I think BLM's hit max potential at around 12.5 seconds as well, whenever they flare, convert, Fire. BLM's max burst is SOOO much higher than SMN's though. Our BLM is above 1000 DPS with his opener on Bahamut before he hops into Umbral.

[Dyvid]

I think BLM's hit max potential at around 12.5 seconds as well, whenever they flare, convert, Fire. BLM's max burst is SOOO much higher than SMN's though. Our BLM is above 1000 DPS with his opener on Bahamut before he hops into Umbral.

Hmm, when i play BLM I pop Thunder 3 to open then Fire 3 (for astral fire 3) > Fire > Fire > Fire > yada yada so it's like 5s for max dps output. Flare is my finish before I'm oom and need to switch to umbral ice.