I fear for Summoner

[Lilyarel]

lol no one would use the skill then. 3 Festers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 Enkindle

Good. It will get along well with Ifrit and cry about never being used.

[Ronove]

Good. It will get along well with Ifrit and cry about never being used.

I don't think SMN needs another skill we don't use.

[ChazNatlo]

I don't think SMN needs another skill we don't use.

Especially since the other two notable ones are somewhat useful in PVP from what I hear. Though it's possible Ifrit's PVP usefulness has changed since I last heard. Some months ago. A skill that is like another skill but worse costwise and damage wise wouldn't be useful at all.

[RyuDragnier]

Good. It will get along well with Ifrit and cry about never being used.

Except people USE Ifrit.

[Lilyarel]

Except people USE Ifrit.

Dont understand why. Garuda's Contagion alone is better than whatever Ifrit can do. Contagion gives a slight strain release on Summoners mana issues. Ifrit has nothing that can help the Summoner in such a way.

[Lavieh]

Dont understand why. Garuda's Contagion alone is better than whatever Ifrit can do. Contagion gives a slight strain release on Summoners mana issues. Ifrit has nothing that can help the Summoner in such a way.

Not sure why you think that. Contagion is only a 30-35 DPS increase and to take full advantage of garuda you are spending more mana on Miasma 2. Ifrit does around 30-40 more dps than Garuda, without DK or SE/DE. Parse a test dummy and try your best, compare the two parses and you will see that parsing with ifrit is typically higher.

It is good to note that you should tack on ~10 DPS to the garuda parse, since ACT doesn't register a contagioned Bio.

[Sanguisio]

Dont understand why. Garuda's Contagion alone is better than whatever Ifrit can do. Contagion gives a slight strain release on Summoners mana issues. Ifrit has nothing that can help the Summoner in such a way.

Ifrit is only good for trash mobs where extending DOTs is useless

[RyuDragnier]

Dont understand why. Garuda's Contagion alone is better than whatever Ifrit can do. Contagion gives a slight strain release on Summoners mana issues. Ifrit has nothing that can help the Summoner in such a way.

Ifrit is more for trash mobs and bosses that don't move that can be DPS'd down without fear of major AoE retaliation (such as Rafflesia in T6 and The Avatar in T8), just due to his higher potency moves. Garuda's Contagion can only help with the mana strain once every minute, but you have a drop in DPS in return since her potency is overall lower than Ifrit. The question is do you want your very small MP return in those fights, or do you want actual damage so the enemy dies faster?

[Sanguisio]

Ifrit is more for trash mobs and bosses that don't move that can be DPS'd down without fear of major AoE retaliation (such as Rafflesia in T6 and The Avatar in T8), just due to his higher potency moves. Garuda's Contagion can only help with the mana strain once every minute, but you have a drop in DPS in return since her potency is overall lower than Ifrit. The question is do you want your very small MP return in those fights, or do you want actual damage so the enemy dies faster?

When ever the target doesnt die before the extended time of the DOTs, garuda is best. Its not just about mana strain, you lose 3 GCDs per recast of DOTs which could be ruins, also you can use Miasma 2 +PPPs and doubles the affect of RS DOTs.