dd/av should never have been included with the dungeons to get relic items. That was a sick and sadistic move on SE's part and benefits nobody. SE thinks they're helping leveling players but in fact they're doing them a disservice by putting them with unhappy, short on patience people who naturally clash with the levelers.

50's get absolutely NOTHING running those 2 dungeons, nothing! And the levelers get disdain and outrage. How was that a good idea?