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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven_Reborn View Post
    Eve Online also does this and I love it. Sellers can put 100 stacks of something up but buyers can select how many they want from that listing. I love it and it works great.
    For the buyer maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuolema View Post
    For the buyer maybe.
    Well Eve has been around for over 10 years and buyers/sellers both haven't had issues with the system... in fact if you google EVE's economy they actually have professional economist working on their staff and it's one of the most complex and stable in an MMO.

    Besides... In FFXIV I can go up to an NPC and choose how much of an item I want.. it's kind of silly it doesn't work the same for the Market Board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven_Reborn View Post
    Well Eve has been around for over 10 years and buyers/sellers both haven't had issues with the system... in fact if you google EVE's economy they actually have professional economist working on their staff and it's one of the most complex and stable in an MMO.

    Besides... In FFXIV I can go up to an NPC and choose how much of an item I want.. it's kind of silly it doesn't work the same for the Market Board.
    Reason's have been expressed already in this thread already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuolema View Post
    Reason's have been expressed already in this thread already.
    Yes, and now I'm expressing my reason for agreeing with the OP. Because honestly the said reasons aren't valid enough for me. That's just my opinion.
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    Well I cant agree with this. I see this and I feel it could be abused rather quickly in ways people have been hinting throughout. Lets say this was an option, then as a seller I would use four retainers and fill every slot with stacks of ninety nine. Undercutting the current prices because the reserve in Gil makes me able to aggressively compete. Now because I dont have to put up multiple listings of the same item I now have influence in eighty markets. Therefore controlling and driving down market prices as I passively make money. Thus pushing out competition from new and less resourced crafters slowly monopolizing those eighty markets. Woo the buyers are getting a brake, but all the people who put time and effort into gathering and crafting are now just competing with a few mega crafters on the mb. This is what I think would happen, plus how is it fair to the person who put the effort into making the items?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeridaQ View Post
    Well I cant agree with this. I see this and I feel it could be abused rather quickly in ways people have been hinting throughout. Woo the buyers are getting a brake, but all the people who put time and effort into gathering and crafting are now just competing with a few mega crafters on the mb. This is what I think would happen, plus how is it fair to the person who put the effort into making the items?
    And guess what... that crafter that keeps undercutting is going to get so low that even he/she won't be making a profit and guess what... that market will rebound and stabilize. This happens all the time.. even in the real world. In the beginning you'd see lots of situations like this.. but after a few months people will learn how to play the market correctly. It just seems ppl in FFXIV are too scared to play the game when it comes to the Market Board. I personally think crafters SHOULD be more competitive.. it would make for another level of gameplay lol
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    It would stabilize at a much lower price. This change would very much help buyers. Sellers would basically be getting much more selling slots out of each retainer. Supply inflation would naturally drop prices.
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    Yes that is my point those with the reserves would stabilize the market at a much lower price, thus reducing the incentive for people to become crafters in the first place. Because crafters with deep pockets have the insulation to take the blow and therefore take market share. Also if we want to talk about the real world, sellers set prices in their goods and quantity sold. Mirroring the current system. Example if you want to buy five rolls of toilet paper for the same prices as a bulk thirty pack. I think you will be out of luck for both quantity and price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Sellers would basically be getting much more selling slots out of each retainer.
    This one for me as a seller. Its silly to have to keep breaking stacks into smaller bite sized pieces to try sell things feasibly to buyers. Splitting a full stack of 99 into stacks of 5 is 20 retainer slots gone. Pricing each stack separate and flooding the market listings with each stack. Not good design at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylis View Post
    This one for me as a seller. Its silly to have to keep breaking stacks into smaller bite sized pieces to try sell things feasibly to buyers. Splitting a full stack of 99 into stacks of 5 is 20 retainer slots gone. Pricing each stack separate and flooding the market listings with each stack. Not good design at all.
    if im breaking a stack of 99 into stacks of 5, you bet im taking a huge price hike in selling them. enough to be worth my while. and if you aren't, then you just aren't selling efficiently.
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