FCOB loot... "Random"? A disaster.

[Staris]

Maybe because you're a gambler or you're not encountering that much of a problem yourself. Seeing that you got quite a few loots in FCoB, it's no wonder you're always an advocate to support the current RNG system.

yeah all this loot I use... to better farm trial roulette's?
Usually 6 months between tiers, plenty of time to gear all 8 players even with the worst possible group luck.
No I don't gamble at all, I'm too good at math.

any other system gears groups on average faster (or it defeats your point yes?). Thus causes people to quit the game faster and groups to fall apart faster. Hence SE makes less money.

I don't care if they change it, my group would do fine, I would benefit, but I know they won't. I know it is good for the survival of the game.

Thinking otherwise is blissful ignorance of reality.

[ZhycranaDranix]

Usually 6 months between tiers, plenty of time to gear all 8 players even with the worst possible group luck.
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you my friend have probably never faced the wrath of RNG;example cleared T9 with a static group for 2months about 8 weeks of lockout no TNK chest, lockout gets lifted a month of tons of T9 runs still no drop so yeah you can imagine trying to get that BiS item for your main with RNG on your back.....its redundant gear that we don't want like people are stating some of their alts are actually gearing up it's that serious

[Staris]

you my friend have probably never faced the wrath of RNG;example cleared T9 with a static group for 2months

First tank chest not bis, but I digress.
Grats on taking forever to kill t9 i guess?
Having killed it months before you, our group never saw a bard bow or dragoon wep drop.
That didn't stop us from killing turn 10-12 within a week and turn 13 a couple weeks later. (sorry we only raid 9-12 hours a week so not really pushing it)
They made near zero difference in the long run. (was farmed easily after patch)

People should be far more upset about the fact you could spend hundreds of millions of gil on penta melded left side 110 gear (and right side 90) and had a huge advantage over others. (and not needing any drops from previous coil). I mean it was pretty close to pay to win....

[ZhycranaDranix]

First tank chest not bis, but I digress.
Grats on taking forever to kill t9 i guess?
Having killed it months before you, our group never saw a bard bow or dragoon wep drop.

Your totally missing the argument here.....Who wants to cycle through gear that you already have till it becomes obsolete. Are you that full of yourself. Let me paint you a picture SCH been clearing t10 since week 1(since this is more current for you) I've yet to get my ears , is this good enough for you ? And I didn't say It took me two months we cleared it straight for 2 months and yet no chest drop , who cares if its not BiS we want it didn't get it but all other crap can be recycled.

your argument is totally invalid

[lordparanoia]

Your totally missing the argument here.....Who wants to cycle through gear that you already have till it becomes obsolete. Are you that full of yourself. Let me paint you a picture SCH been clearing t10 since week 1(since this is more current for you) I've yet to get my ears , is this good enough for you ? And I didn't say It took me two months we cleared it straight for 2 months and yet no chest drop , who cares if its not BiS we want it didn't get it but all other crap can be recycled.

your argument is totally invalid

I cleared t11 on week 2 and i have to see the pants yet. The only thing i see is the healer bracelet. 7 bracelets means more or less 2 months of the same drop. And i'm not sure if this week it will drop again.

[Autumn_Eluwy]

any other system gears groups on average faster (or it defeats your point yes?). Thus causes people to quit the game faster and groups to fall apart faster. Hence SE makes less money.

I don't care if they change it, my group would do fine, I would benefit, but I know they won't. I know it is good for the survival of the game.

Thinking otherwise is blissful ignorance of reality.

If SE wanted to, they could make the token system so that people can only fully gear their characters over the span of 2 patches. It's long, but it's progress. What about people that quit because the RNG system sucks so much? There are some of us who are willing to grind for the weapon, and many who don't. I haven't actually met anyone who geared up too fast and just quit the game. If you wanted to make a token system, you could decide the speed you want the players to gear up at. Progress is progress

[Nestama]

And getting no progress while the rest of your static does is simply infuriating/fustrating. Especially when you don't win the rolls on the items that upgrade your Ironworks gear.

[MrCookTM]

And getting no progress while the rest of your static does is simply infuriating/fustrating. Especially when you don't win the rolls on the items that upgrade your Ironworks gear.

If the rest of your static does get drops while you don't, and you still have to compete for carbontwine/-coat, you have a problem with your static.

[Pots_Talos]

If the rest of your static does get drops while you don't, and you still have to compete for carbontwine/-coat, you have a problem with your static.

The sad thing is, I see people complain about this all the time. People need to tell their raid leaders that loot like Carbon should be cycled around to the persons with the fewest drops. Preventing people in your static from upgrades hurts the whole group.

[MrCookTM]

The sad thing is, I see people complain about this all the time. People need to tell their raid leaders that loot like Carbon should be cycled around to the persons with the fewest drops. Preventing people in your static from upgrades hurts the whole group.

Yup, either this or using a dkp system should be the standard for every static in this game. People are loot greedy in general, some more, some less, it's in our nature. Without some sort of agreement on who gets what in a raid determined by either the raid lead or a point system I see this being frustrating as hell for the player that not only gets hit hard bei rng in terms of drops, but has to roll (and lose) for upgrade materials aswell.

I mean, as bad as the rng/lockout mess is in this game, at least SE gives some sort of an alternate gearing path through upgrade materials for tome gear for that exact reason. If now your static does not even give you that, seriously, leave static, it's a very bad one (not necessarily skillwise, but most definitly in terms of attitude)...

But well, we're getting offtopic here.