Kind of worried

[Ashkendor]

I wouldn't say I was lost but more along the lines of I gave up on the zodiac when they introduced the alexandrite step. The materia costs alone were wtf?! status but I could live with that. Having to collect all the alexandrite with rng which would be slower then old atma and that much longer put it into the NOPE category.

The alexandrite isn't just RNG, though. You always had the ability to buy the maps from Auriana for 800 myth apiece. Later on we acquired the ability to buy alexandrites from the hunt billmaster as well.

With that said, I really did dislike the RNG portions of the relic quest.

The problem with the relics is this the upgraded coil weapons are better then them. I130.

So people are looking at it. Well I can sink a stupid amount of time to finish it or wait 2-3 weeks and get my 130 weapon.

That's how the relic quest has always been, though. The raid weapon for the current raid will be better for awhile, then the relic weapon catches up as time goes on. I know that this has been billed as the end of the relic quest chain, but I honestly can't see them completely abandoning the relic with as much work as they've led us through with it. It all remains to be seen, though. ^^

[Eidolon]

I don't think this guy is a doom-sayer, guys. He's not saying, "We're losing players to the Relic Grind OMGWTFBBQ"; He's asking if we're losing players who are interested in persuing the relic quest, making the weapons more rare and if this is a good thing or not. That doesn't necessarily mean the players are qutting.

For the answer to his question? Yes. The Relic is becoming more and more rare, in my opinion. And in the wierdest way possible - rather than people thinking it a good way to get an alternative weapon, people are now thinking, "Eh, I'll get my Tomestone weapon wtih the next tower."... Making raid gear more casual than the RNJeezus Grind.

[ShinSoku]

Game seems fine to me. Just because a few loud people shout how they are going to quit for X reason doesn't mean that the game has gone to pot. It just means loud people are being heard (which is nothing unusual). They tend to be ignored, too.

Only you, Mog, would even say that and actually be serious about it too. It's certainly enough of a grind for me (400ish more of those lights to go).

I agreed Themis. I'm sure soon there will be an adjustment with the light Phase... /Give us the bonus already lol.
This Phase for the relic is far more easier vs. the Lights(GAHHHHHHH)/Alexandrites. Garuda/T4/Ifrit and so on... were bloody boring.

[XgungraveX]

I really did dislike the RNG portions of the relic quest.

this my only problem with the questchain other than that everything is fine

[Fornix]

With that said, I really did dislike the RNG portions of the relic quest.

This for me plays an important part in as to why I really haven't been too bothered with it all thus far. I'm planning on still getting around to it, just for the sake of the achievement points gained by it. But can't be bothered so much for actually getting it to use it as a weapon. As much of that as possible though will be after the nerfs to its "difficulty". The repetitive nature of content which has to be gone through, with the relic equipped, imho is just a total waste of time.

It'd be nice if either of 2 things happened:

- The RNG element would be taken out, and at least you'd directly know what you'd be up against.
- The relic itself would no longer have to be equipped, and you can go through the content on any class you desire, with any sort of equipment.

[Recaldy]

I was then I fully researched the lights and how much I needed per how much I currently have.

That and Dark Knight looks like fun so I'm switching to that. >_>

[Kazumac]

The relic chain isn't for everyone but there's a lot of people who think it is... That's where the complaints come from. I'm experiencing it slowly. I don't love it tbh but I realize I'm not really the target gamer for it. I don't mind the grind, I just hate the RNG elements such as atma. Books, alexandrite, light (my current step) don't bother me as it is something nice and slow to work towards.

[Kenji1134]

The relic quest is suffering from the same general issue that Artisan Mainhands and Supras had, and needs the same treatment.

As a crafter, you had to make FIFTY HQ tokens (RNG involved) to get your Artisan Mainhand. Then (when Supras came out) you generally needed to have the Artisan Mainhand to get the Supra, which also needed Demimateria and Mastercraft grinding. It was just a long process.
In this patch they simply nerfed the number of tokens required down to 8, from 50. Thus also making Mastercrafts easier to obtain. The process is the same, but more than 6x faster!

Now they need to apply the same logic to the relic chain.
The increased the drop rate of ATMAs. Now we should be able to do 3 books instead of 7. Lets say 25 Alexandrite instead of 75 (each is worth 3 points now). And cut light required from 2000 to say 500.

Just take each step of the current relic quest, and cut down the requirements by 3-4x. We still do the same things, but with less of a grind.