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    [Theory] ACN removed, SMN remade

    Classes are being done away with in Heavensward, I believe. None of the new Jobs have base Classes, neither would it make sense to keep them for past Jobs anymore.

    This presents a circumstance where SCH/SMN would need splitting up. It doesn't look like we're receiving a new offensive DoM Job either (unless they surprise us with RDM but that seems doubtful at this point).

    Perhaps we're finally getting the SMN we always wanted?!

    And SCH can have Glamour-able Carbuncles!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf View Post
    Classes are being done away with in Heavensward, I believe. None of the new Jobs have base Classes, neither would it make sense to keep them for past Jobs anymore.
    Nope, lore wise you can't get rid of the classes, keep dreaming.
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    I don't think they intend to remove base classes right away--with them so ingrained into the story and quests right now, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go back and screw with all of that at the moment. For now, I think just the new jobs will have no class.

    It does seem like that is their long term goal, though. Eventually, perhaps, Summoners will be remade.
    ...or is the Scholars that will be remade instead? >_>

    DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNN.
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    The old classes won't be removed, no one wants to see the glitchy mess that would cause. Not everyone has a job unlocked and migrating all classes to jobs is not as straightforward as it sounds with all the quests, lore and base code involved. I can guess the reason ROG even exists is because 2.0 doesn't have the base code to have jobs possible without a class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Nope, lore wise you can't get rid of the classes, keep dreaming.
    Yes you can. Just because they won't be playable doesn't mean they wouldn't exist in Eorzea.

    E.g. Musketeer. Boom.
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    Mirasa Thume
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    I dissagree that they're getting rid of classes, but I am a little curious about one thing. And it may seem combative, but I assure you, I am asking out of pure curiousity.

    Why do I keep hearing the idea of Arcanist/Scholar, and Summoner getting it's own new set of skills? Is arcanist so mich closer to how the Scholar plays than to the Summoner? I always saw Scholar as the odd duck of the pair, arcanist training you how to play Summoner.
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    I vote to remove carbuncles from the game. If they remove classes we should get our regular job summons right away...right? Also because I'm tired of seeing people beat this particular dead horse with a stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Nope, lore wise you can't get rid of the classes, keep dreaming.
    Lore wise there should only be one Maggie.

    Lore wise there's only one other Azure Dragoon aside you currently.

    Lore wise there's only one x (job) currently.

    As much as SE wants to lord lore reasons, gameplay breaks the lore significantly when you actually think about it. They are removing classes in an indirect way, by making them not required for new jobs which can become a trend. Technically when you think about the lore, the jobs shouldn't exist along side classes, meaning being a 30 Lancer shouldn't mean I can become a Dragoon. Also: Musketeer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf View Post
    Yes you can. Just because they won't be playable doesn't mean they wouldn't exist in Eorzea.

    E.g. Musketeer. Boom.
    There's also difference between PLAYABLE classes(ACN,GLA,CNJ etc) and UNPLAYABLE(MSK)
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    I suspect they'll just leave current classes as they are but for any new jobs just have the job. however what I would like to know will the new jobs use abilities from other classes like current jobs do. It's not a perfect system but I like having some abilities from other base classes.
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