Thread: New skills in 3.0

If paladin does get a 2nd combo it has to be a non enmity combo. I pretty much can't do my 1-2-3 combo when warriors are main tanking (i.e. they just provoked the boss for tank swap mechanic) and I am off tanking because I just pull it right back off them which leaves me to doing nothing but auto attacking for long periods of time so they can get far enough ahead on hate so I can actually combo again.

Originally Posted by ChazNatlo

New summons. If jobs only get Two new skills (55 and 60) then at least one new Carbuncle for Arcanist.

Well maybe they get rid of base classes so carbuncle could become available for summoner, too.. maybe with some revamped skills... would be cool.


Since the new job classes have no base classes.. it may be that they remove the base classes but lets see.


Additionally jobs are almost their base classes. Conjurer is almost like a white mage... thaumaturge like a blm etc..

Personally for my take on what I'd expect with PLD would be skills in synergy with the current set ... and an improved ability to expend MP on Stoneskin for self-mitigation before large hits:

Skill:
Indomitable Will -- 40-60 second cooldown, for 10 seconds casting cannot be interrupted by damage (enough time to pop a cooldown + soften the first hit with SS, and an after-hit).

Trait:
Hardened Will -- Permanently reduces the chance of damage interrupting casting.
Spirit Drain -- Spirits Within now additionally leaches MP on each use.

Originally Posted by Zumi

If paladin does get a 2nd combo it has to be a non enmity combo. I pretty much can't do my 1-2-3 combo when warriors are main tanking (i.e. they just provoked the boss for tank swap mechanic).

I would love to have something similar to OVERPOWER - but not as snappy as to maintain balance. Make it part of a separate combo chain like MAIM.

Enhanced Flash II - Increases range of FLASH to 8y

Full Parry - Chance to counter for critical damage after successfully blocking an attack. - Proc rate based on parry stat.

Enhanced Cover - absorb % of magical damage of the targeted player. Or make a skill separate from Cover but share the same cool down; let's call it Phalanx.

Shield Charge (gap closer) - Charge at enemy reducing their accuracy for X seconds. Cannot be used inside 8y. Possibly locked to Sword oath only?

Originally Posted by Zumi

If paladin does get a 2nd combo it has to be a non enmity combo. I pretty much can't do my 1-2-3 combo when warriors are main tanking (i.e. they just provoked the boss for tank swap mechanic) and I am off tanking because I just pull it right back off them which leaves me to doing nothing but auto attacking for long periods of time so they can get far enough ahead on hate so I can actually combo again.

-Or you can throw a riot blade or two and stoneskin the WAR, then return to DPSing.

Originally Posted by RaineMagus

-Or you can throw a riot blade or two and stoneskin the WAR, then return to DPSing.

WAR has two dps combo chains that they can use when acting as OT. PLD has zero. It would be a nice addition to the PLD to at least have one full dps combo and not have to fumble for something to do that hurts the mob and didn't generate threat.

Originally Posted by Teryaani

WAR has two dps combo chains that they can use when acting as OT. PLD has zero. It would be a nice addition to the PLD to at least have one full dps combo and not have to fumble for something to do that hurts the mob and didn't generate threat.

I suppose ... yet I also feel that spell-casting is an integral part of the class far as its intended difference vs WAR. Bear in mind that a WAR has nothing to spend MP into (other than flash), and also no spell-casting that can be interrupted, whereas a PLD has at least a weak stoneskin to use.


Perhaps Stoneskin can have an enhanced trait to make it more potent, if people feel that casting SS isn't worth it. While still keeping it lesser than a WHM's.

I play on a PS4 and run scholar as my main. I look forward to the prospect of new abilities with more trepidation than anticipation. I have worked very hard to make everything fit on my hotbar/crossbar. I don't have much room and the few places I have or could make room in my 32 slots may or may not be good places for the new abilities. If I were a white mage, I would be excited like a child on Christmas. As a scholar, I feel more like an adult getting stressed over Christmas.

I agree with Raine. PLD is supposed to have some sort of spell casting abilities not just limited to flash. I think it needs spells that can cause damage. Maybe a holy type spell like WHM but adjust it to an AOE with DoT damage/ Or maybe some sort of Virus like spell like ARC that does the same, with dmg. PLD needs more damage and maybe even more Enfeebling. IMO PLD should be almost like a Support Tank. If not giving it damage, at least let it control fight more. Like a BRD with sword. Like I said, look at Dragon Age: Inquisition with its Templar Tree. Thats what my PLD should be like.

I suppose PLDs could get a self heal from a 2nd combo. Something that moves on from riot blade. An attack that does moderate damage, but also procs a small heal for the PLD. If done right it would also give them some healing agro.