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  1. #151
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    ChickNorris's Avatar
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    Chick Norris
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 58
    I am fairly sure that every way of expressing:

    Yes, you should DPS/No, you shouldn't have to

    has been expressed. Unless you are all bored and waiting for maintenance to be over. In that case....me too and Merry Christmas.
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  2. #152
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    Tyrn's Avatar
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    Tyrnia Edil
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    As (hopefully) everyone has already said OP you were doing the right thing.

    WHMs and SCHs who only heal, never help the group by doing damage when there's clear room for it and instead just stand around waiting for someone to take a bit of damage are in my eyes on the level of PLDs and WARs who just autoattack or sheathe their weapons after they have enmity lead and only use their enmity/dps combos in short bursts to keep their enmity lead whenever it looks like a DPS might catch up (something you never see PLDs and WARs do because it's incredibly lazy and makes fights take much longer than they need to). They might be "just doing their job" but I sure as hell wouldn't be in a hurry to be in a party with them again.
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    Last edited by Tyrn; 12-25-2014 at 07:01 PM.

  3. #153
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    TetsuyaHikari's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Celes Reinhardt
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    The only time I get annoyed with WHM dpsing is when their damage interferes with their healing. Like holy for example. If you spam it so much that your MP drops to 400 or less and you're unable to keep us alive because of that... Yeah, then we'd have a problem. I've seen that happen before too.

    If you're not running out of MP and keeping people alive though, I don't see an issue. I'm always popping DOTs and such as a SCH, but I guess people generally expect SCH to be doing damage more than a WHM.
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  4. #154
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    BraveheartRamo's Avatar
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    Character
    Ramo Dan
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Excellent job Sunako, players like you who can take that extra mile to make a party more exciting are what we like to come across most. I usually play as SMN and do healing when necessary as well.
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  5. 12-26-2014 10:08 AM
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    Lost the text on a copy-paste to edit. -.-

  6. #155
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    Darkdrover's Avatar
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    Character
    Whiskey Tango
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    As a SCH, I don't DPS all the time, I feel out the group first, if the tank is soft or under-geared, or the DPS are trigger happy and don't wait for the tank to grab hate, then you will have to focus on healing, but many groups now don't have this problem, and you should feel free to DPS as you like. I don't think it should be expected (just my opinion) that a healer DPS, but as long as no one is dying or having difficulties, its most welcome behavior. But don't sacrifice heals if you feel that you cant keep up with the damage. Ive had people happy that I dps, and people that get pissed. That's life. You are paying to play the game just like everyone else is, so dps or don't. You get more brownie points if you DPS though, I wouldn't ever hold it against a healer if they didn't. It is what it is.
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  7. #156
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    Felblood's Avatar
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    Character
    Argantes Felblood
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    He was probably mad because you were doing more dps than him lol.

    I always dps in Cleric Stance as a SCH as much as possible. Healers that stance dance and keep everyone alive are pro. You're doing it right

    I could understand if you were letting people die because you were dpsing, but I doubt any healers that do dps are allowing that to happen.
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    Last edited by Felblood; 12-26-2014 at 12:05 PM.

  8. #157
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    Xhominid's Avatar
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    Character
    Vanicesol Luna'ciel
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Since I have an Elezen WHM at 50 and all my experience from that, If a healer doesn't DPS...then it MUST either be because of undergeared tanks or DPS that constantly take aggro again and again...or it's a MRD/WAR class.

    And even in these instances, I still usually DPS or atleast sleep the addons so I can still help out on the adds pre-Holy and post-Holy, I just use Holy minus turning on CS(due to the fact that it's possibly too dangerous for a squishy tank). Those party members kicking you for being support as a WHM and SCH should be should be ashamed of themselves and I hope to never play with them.
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  9. #158
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    Huntington's Avatar
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    Dante Huntington
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Depends. I'm not going to DPS on WHM or SCH if the tank is doing repeated pulls one after the other with big groups and not many breaks in between, I may be helping to kill everything faster, but I'm also draining the resources I could be using sooner. Usually I throw up Aero and Aero 2, and Swfitcast Holy on big groups and that's about it. If no damage is coming from the target, then I'll go ahead and Regen tank and DPS till a certain HP amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megido View Post
    haha, this guy

    There are weird people, noobs, and then there are weird noobs. Huntington you are the super rare one-person-a-forum weird noob, made HQ by using low grade materials.

  10. #159
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    Elazu's Avatar
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    Character
    Aveira Teleri
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Healers SHOULD dps as long as they can handle the healing while doing so.

    That bard was a clown.

    The problem here is, and it happens pretty much every single time, some guy just says "kick this person please" and everyone votes yes without even thinking twice or knowing why.
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  11. #160
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    Mature's Avatar
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    Mature Rudlum
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    You probably found the typical kid who wants some attention and got poor sense of humour and doesn't want to dps and let eos heal.

    I main Sch and at this stage I only dps and let eos heal I do not heal unless lustrate is needed for mt.

    You will always find one out there... I usually just report them due to the fact it end up in abuse.
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