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  1. #121
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    Jamez82's Avatar
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    Jay'nes Alexander
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I bet they were running a parse, seen your dps being higher (yes, holy is amazing) and got all butthurt.
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  2. #122
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The funny thing? Holy used to be stronger until Square nerfed it because WHM was doing far more DPS than a BLM. Then after frontlines came out, Square disabled Cleric Stance for PvP.
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  3. #123
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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    I'll DPS when i know the Tank is going to take minimal damage, such as on bosses or small Trash packs.

    What drives me absolutely insane is the people who demand that i should be DPSing at ALL TIMES.
    Yeah sure buddy, let me just stop healing the Tank who pulled 20 mobs onto himself so i can lay down some awesome 25 Potency AoEs.

    TL;DR, People are idiots.
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  4. #124
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arielyanna View Post
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    You're entitled to your opinion. However, if you are the type that stands around doing absolutely nothing but twiddling your thumbs when no healing needs to be done, I call you lazy (and no I'm not talking about SCOB or FCOB, those are different). You'll also never earn any commendations from me (metaphorically speaking as we're on different data centers).
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  5. #125
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    Brightshadow's Avatar
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    In my opinion it's the healer choice by completing there role they are doing enough; however, if they want/feel they should include some dps that is fine as long as the healing is up to par. But its not something that should be a requirement nor expected.
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    Last edited by Brightshadow; 12-25-2014 at 03:02 AM.

  6. #126
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    If anything, it's easier to dps a boss than it is a huge trash pull
    When im healing on my alt SCH, I get bored standing around doing nothing :P. <3 pairing with a WAR as SCH due to that bonus 20% on adlo shield (40% for crit adlos ^^). Crit Adlo+eye for an eye on big pulls, hit rouse for pet healing and get to dotting! XD

    Even when Im on tank, for most bosses in dungeons ill switch to DPS accs and sword oath for the bosses. Turn 9 geared + 120/130 ilvl dps accs, makes the boss drop a lot faster.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arielyanna View Post
    Flame me if you want... but I will continue to play the same way that served me well in XI and other MMO's here as a Healer.
    FFXI has a TOTALLY different combat style, so playing WHM the same as FFXI is not playing WHM in FFXIV well. Most every MMO has differences in healing, you need to change to adapt to each MMO to be able to properly utilize the role. Same with tanking, same with DPS.

    Albeit there are some tips which work cross MMO. Better to approach it as being totally new and forget the previous MMO ^^

    Just like using STR accs for NIN :P
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 12-25-2014 at 03:34 AM.

  7. #127
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    Najara's Avatar
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    Najara Soothsayer
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I was in the snowcloack today and some kind of bard started whining about that cause i did dps and spam holy in the aoe pulls. Nobody died in that whole 15min dungeon and just before the last boss i get kicked from the party because i did dps as whm. If i keep everybody alive do it really matter if i m doing dps? They just said "you should only heal because your role is healer if you wanna dps you should roll dps"
    I'd like to throw in my two cents on this. I was in a Haukke Manor HM dungeon last week and the moment I zoned in, I was playing a summoner and there was another one who was using Ifrit-egi.. I was using Garuda. The White Mage blurted something out like "It's good to see atleast one Summoner knows Ifrit Egi is better"

    I just shrugged it off, but then he repeated it and started calling me a trash summoner so I had to be like.. "Excuse me?"
    Never in my life would I thought I'd be harassed for being the one to use Garuda-egi.
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  8. #128
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    When im healing on my alt SCH, I get bored standing around doing nothing :P. <3 pairing with a WAR as SCH due to that bonus 20% on adlo shield (40% for crit adlos ^^). Crit Adlo+eye for an eye on big pulls, hit rouse for pet healing and get to dotting! XD

    Even when Im on tank, for most bosses in dungeons ill switch to DPS accs and sword oath for the bosses. Turn 9 geared + 120/130 ilvl dps accs, makes the boss drop a lot faster.
    Oh definitely, if I have time to DoT I do. The tank I usually run with in a premade just has a propensity toward making me work really damn hard to keep him standing. It's all in good fun, though. :3

    I use DPS acc/sword oath on PLD on bosses as well. It's amazing how much it actually affects the damage output.
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  9. #129
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    Apricoth's Avatar
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    Apricoth Daenya
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 70
    I will join the parrot flock and say, "Ignore the naysayers and do what you think is appropriate given the particular situation." You know what you can and cannot do.
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  10. #130
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    Chihaya's Avatar
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    Syanonn Rias
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arielyanna View Post
    -stuffz-
    Hey casual, it is clearly stated that everyone in the party was kept alive, so what is the problem?
    It's trash dungeons, not coil - a lot of the time healers would just be standing around doing nothing for 75% of the fights if they are just healing.
    Making the run go a bit faster, having the tank take less damage because the mob died faster or is stunned is bad?
    Sometime I would swiftcast holy just to stun large pack of mobs to lessen damage on the tank.

    Sounds like yer bad at yer job, horrible at MP control if you are going to run out of MP in trash dungeons or just too damn lazy.

    News for you, FFXIV isn't FFXI *gasp* the battle system is different

    and holy shit, why are you using STR accessories on NIN
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