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    Player
    Velox's Avatar
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    Healing is definitely the easiest job in 4-man content, no questions asked
    Ehhhhh yes and no. Healing is easy if the party knows what it is doing overall. If people are new and/or people are under-geared, healing turns into a nightmare. So yes, it can be the easiest job, but it can also be the hardest. It swings wildly from one extreme to the other because it's the one job that's most dependent on the rest of the party doing what they need to do.

    Tank undergeared = taking a shit-ton of damage
    Tank new = not utilizing CDs for certain mechanics
    DPS undergeared = mobs take 10 minutes to die
    DPS standing in every AOE = welcome to MP starvation
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    Kiroh's Avatar
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    Soube Miseux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Ehhhhh yes and no. Healing is easy if the party knows what it is doing overall. If people are new and/or people are under-geared, healing turns into a nightmare. So yes, it can be the easiest job, but it can also be the hardest. It swings wildly from one extreme to the other because it's the one job that's most dependent on the rest of the party doing what they need to do.
    "Adventurers such as yourself oft stand upon the front lines of battle. Owing to this, you are like to find yourself in many situations wherein a capacity for healing would be advantageous. Mind you, there is more to conjury than that.

    By harnessing the power of earth, wind, and water, conjurers are also capable of weaving spells that wreak havoc.

    In terms of sheer destructive power, conjury may pale in comparison to thaumaturgy, but its capacity to defend one against aggression more than compensates for this relative shortcoming.

    More than simple healers, yet not true dealers of destruction, conjurers realize their full potential when they employ their powers in support of others. This, my dear adventurer, is what it means to be one of us."

    - E-Sumi-Yan, Guildmaster of the Stillglade Fane. -

    In other words, you do everything and anything you can to help the party. If that means adding some DPS here and there, it's part of the job.
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 12-25-2014 at 04:34 PM.

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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Ehhhhh yes and no. Healing is easy if the party knows what it is doing overall. If people are new and/or people are under-geared, healing turns into a nightmare. So yes, it can be the easiest job, but it can also be the hardest. It swings wildly from one extreme to the other because it's the one job that's most dependent on the rest of the party doing what they need to do.

    Tank undergeared = taking a shit-ton of damage
    Tank new = not utilizing CDs for certain mechanics
    DPS undergeared = mobs take 10 minutes to die
    DPS standing in every AOE = welcome to MP starvation
    This all the way.
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    Player
    Velox's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
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    I think you replied to the wrong person. :P
    That being said, your post is 100% correct.
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    ChickNorris's Avatar
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    Chick Norris
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 58
    I am fairly sure that every way of expressing:

    Yes, you should DPS/No, you shouldn't have to

    has been expressed. Unless you are all bored and waiting for maintenance to be over. In that case....me too and Merry Christmas.
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    Tyrnia Edil
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 90
    As (hopefully) everyone has already said OP you were doing the right thing.

    WHMs and SCHs who only heal, never help the group by doing damage when there's clear room for it and instead just stand around waiting for someone to take a bit of damage are in my eyes on the level of PLDs and WARs who just autoattack or sheathe their weapons after they have enmity lead and only use their enmity/dps combos in short bursts to keep their enmity lead whenever it looks like a DPS might catch up (something you never see PLDs and WARs do because it's incredibly lazy and makes fights take much longer than they need to). They might be "just doing their job" but I sure as hell wouldn't be in a hurry to be in a party with them again.
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    Last edited by Tyrn; 12-25-2014 at 07:01 PM.

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    BraveheartRamo's Avatar
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    Ramo Dan
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Excellent job Sunako, players like you who can take that extra mile to make a party more exciting are what we like to come across most. I usually play as SMN and do healing when necessary as well.
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    Darkdrover's Avatar
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    Whiskey Tango
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 50
    As a SCH, I don't DPS all the time, I feel out the group first, if the tank is soft or under-geared, or the DPS are trigger happy and don't wait for the tank to grab hate, then you will have to focus on healing, but many groups now don't have this problem, and you should feel free to DPS as you like. I don't think it should be expected (just my opinion) that a healer DPS, but as long as no one is dying or having difficulties, its most welcome behavior. But don't sacrifice heals if you feel that you cant keep up with the damage. Ive had people happy that I dps, and people that get pissed. That's life. You are paying to play the game just like everyone else is, so dps or don't. You get more brownie points if you DPS though, I wouldn't ever hold it against a healer if they didn't. It is what it is.
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    Felblood's Avatar
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    Argantes Felblood
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    He was probably mad because you were doing more dps than him lol.

    I always dps in Cleric Stance as a SCH as much as possible. Healers that stance dance and keep everyone alive are pro. You're doing it right

    I could understand if you were letting people die because you were dpsing, but I doubt any healers that do dps are allowing that to happen.
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    Last edited by Felblood; 12-26-2014 at 12:05 PM.

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    Xhominid's Avatar
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    Vanicesol Luna'ciel
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    Diabolos
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Since I have an Elezen WHM at 50 and all my experience from that, If a healer doesn't DPS...then it MUST either be because of undergeared tanks or DPS that constantly take aggro again and again...or it's a MRD/WAR class.

    And even in these instances, I still usually DPS or atleast sleep the addons so I can still help out on the adds pre-Holy and post-Holy, I just use Holy minus turning on CS(due to the fact that it's possibly too dangerous for a squishy tank). Those party members kicking you for being support as a WHM and SCH should be should be ashamed of themselves and I hope to never play with them.
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