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    Player
    Chihaya's Avatar
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RaineMagus View Post
    The only person that you need to listen to is the tank, as your casting Holy impacts NOONE ELSE. You're giving the bard a great opportunity to use a song that doesn't negatively impact their damage / they have no reason to complain.

    --Please keep happily spamming holy. If you get paired with someone like me, you can be assured that we'll vote "no" to anyone that attempts to kick you. That is all.
    Who you kiddin' =/ Most bards don't play songs, unless they are low on TP then MAYBE they will play paeon if there's no ninja to goad them.
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    Malzian's Avatar
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    My only gripe as a tank when a WHM is spamming Holy... is when they don't heal at all and tell me that I should constantly be popping CDs so they can just AoE all the time. If you can differentiate between when it's time to DPS and when it's time to heal, that's fine, but it's just as annoying to make me do all the work to keep myself alive just so a healer can kill the mobs.
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    Kazumac's Avatar
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    Kha'tan Moapaln
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    My only gripe as a tank when a WHM is spamming Holy... is when they don't heal at all and tell me that I should constantly be popping CDs so they can just AoE all the time. If you can differentiate between when it's time to DPS and when it's time to heal, that's fine, but it's just as annoying to make me do all the work to keep myself alive just so a healer can kill the mobs.
    Your point on not healing at all stands but you should be using your cooldowns to reduce damage (and moving out of aoes if possible). If someone called you out on not doing it, good for them. If you are consciously reducing the efficiency of your run... well my sympathy to your DF group. It's not like using damage reduction or healing increase cooldowns lowers your threat or is difficult to do...
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazumac View Post
    Your point on not healing at all stands but you should be using your cooldowns to reduce damage (and moving out of aoes if possible). If someone called you out on not doing it, good for them. If you are consciously reducing the efficiency of your run... well my sympathy to your DF group. It's not like using damage reduction or healing increase cooldowns lowers your threat or is difficult to do...
    When tanking I'll pop Sentinel to round em up then when stun immunity kicks in, pop Hallowed to reduce pressure on the healer. Sometimes throw a cover on em in case they grab aggro.

    Good thing of playing all 3 roles, tank, healer, DPS gives you empathy and good understanding of how to make things a lot smoother in the run. eg, good use of CDs, not spinning the mobs like a hyperactive kid on a spinning wheel when theres melee in the party.^_^
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 12-24-2014 at 11:22 AM.

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    RaineMagus's Avatar
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    Eliya Maxwell
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    Who you kiddin' =/ Most bards don't play songs, unless they are low on TP then MAYBE they will play paeon if there's no ninja to goad them.
    This is sadly true... (however)

    Usually I find that a polite request containing "please" is all that it takes, at least to get "foe". Sometimes people just forget and need a reminder.
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    Nep Nep
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RaineMagus View Post
    This is sadly true... (however)

    Usually I find that a polite request containing "please" is all that it takes, at least to get "foe". Sometimes people just forget and need a reminder.
    Feh bad Bards. Sing them songs. I'll sing and lower my own DPS if it means watching the healer or Black mage decimate the group of enemies. Or if the Melees need to keep going. I like helping folks. xD Plus its in the job description. XD
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    Last edited by Nep_Nep; 12-24-2014 at 08:55 AM.

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    Actually had a dps whm in qarn an hour ago was awesome not seen one in ages, the tank had left party lol glad i put join in progress on
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    EA9Sol's Avatar
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    Character
    Eden Phantomhive
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Dps when you can and heal when you need to. I can safely safe healing in a dungeon is boring and if you can do both why not? As long as we don't die who cares. As long as we are in a praty you are my comrades and I'll fight by your side to the bitter end!
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Double Dee
    World
    Typhon
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Sadly you encountered an idiot(s). I main bard and first thing I do is sing Foes Req even if there aren't any caster dps so the WHM or SCH can dps.
    Also, holy is a great defensive skill as its a huge damage, huge AOE stun. Even when I play as a tank I'd rather the WHM get holys in there, especially right after a mass pull for the stun. I'm actually stunned when the WHM does not holy. That actually causes near wipes or wipes.
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