Idea against Undercutting at the Marketboard (The next.. )

[Spawnie]

'dont know why ppl undercut by 1 cause some1 else is gonna do it.. i dropped 2 sprite hats 1st day of patch only 1 on market board was 12m i thought was insanely overpriced and posted both for 5m each undercuttin by bigger amounts reduces some1 else undercutting ya by 1 gil lol

[Sounders]

'dont know why ppl undercut by 1 cause some1 else is gonna do it.. i dropped 2 sprite hats 1st day of patch only 1 on market board was 12m i thought was insanely overpriced and posted both for 5m each undercuttin by bigger amounts reduces some1 else undercutting ya by 1 gil lol

Law of supply. If it's easy to acquire, then the price would drop and fast.

[Sibyll]

Law of supply. If it's easy to acquire, then the price would drop and fast.

Ehcatl Sealants are easy to acquire and those were 350k on my server for months. They've only recently started tanking.

[Sounders]

Ehcatl Sealants are easy to acquire and those were 350k on my server for months. They've only recently started tanking.

Nope. I disagree with you. Ehcatl Sealants is one of the most annoying things to acquire. Each sealants need 8 oaknots, so in your server, it means oaknots is around 45k each. And you can only have a maximum of 6 per day.
For mastercrafters, the effort to do the ixal quests just to gain 45k is not worth it. The effort in doing ixal quests is almost the same as doing a 4-star. So mastercrafters, don't want to be bothered with getting the oaknots themselves, it's better to buy them at mb. Of course, there can be exceptions that mastercrafters have spare time that they'd rather do beast tribes than craft.

[Sibyll]

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I'll agree to disagree then. I've only recently been able to 4* craft and only for BSM and ARM, so I really can't comment on how profitable these will be. Looking at the market board those items aren't selling very fast (I'm also on Mateus by the way). So to me it's a guaranteed return of Ehcatl Sealants for those dailies over the given time investment versus a piece of armor that may or may not sell for 900k.

I could see your argument making more sense for a 4* crafter that can make Artisan/Forager gear because the market for those is likely stronger than for DoW/DoM, at least on our server. However, this is just my speculation from looking at the market board so if you have any incite on our server economy I'm open to hear it.

[Melondra]

One slight altercation to the MB system would resolve a lot of problems remove the current listing prices from the MB only show what the item has sold for after it is sold, this will prevent massive deflation and undercutting, and the MB system can remain as is, so long as u can see every item and what everyone has that item up for you will continue to have massive deflation. When u have massive deflation of a item in a matter of minutes there is a severe problem.

[Nicobo]

One slight altercation to the MB system would resolve a lot of problems remove the current listing prices from the MB only show what the item has sold for after it is sold, this will prevent massive deflation and undercutting, and the MB system can remain as is, so long as u can see every item and what everyone has that item up for you will continue to have massive deflation. When u have massive deflation of a item in a matter of minutes there is a severe problem.

So buyers need to guess and test the price? What's up if a zero is added when testing the price? Call a GM for restoration? ^^;

TBH it would be a little bit naive to think "remove listing price" = prevent undercut.
Undercut always happens, "remove listing price" only remove the visibility and make ppl pay more to buy the undercutter's item.

[Melondra]

So buyers need to guess and test the price? What's up if a zero is added when testing the price? Call a GM for restoration? ^^;


Undercut always happens, "remove listing price" only remove the visibility and make ppl pay more to buy the undercutter's item.

That's the idea would prevent massive deflation of items

[Nicobo]

That's the idea would prevent massive deflation of items

IMO price dropping is good as it prevents GIL deflation.

BTW, I think the auction idea will kill many players on really hot item like DET/CRI materia4,
many players need to camp the MB and test the price for whole day...

[LeafRobelle]

I have played other MMORPGS (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to name them, so I won't) with an exchange system similar to Market Boards - but the prices are calculated by supply and demand. Say there are 10 buckets, and 1 milion people want a bucket - the price shoots up. Undercutting will still occur, but prices remain steady.