Au'ra conflict with lore?

[Balipu]

Nope, no lore conflict. We most likely fight tempered dragons, and every dragoon befriends a dragon mount anyway during the storyline. Real wars aren't black and white, and this conflict is no exeption.

[Sapphic]

Nope, no lore conflict. We most likely fight tempered dragons, and every dragoon befriends a dragon mount anyway during the storyline. Real wars aren't black and white, and this conflict is no exeption.

Tempered to which Primal tho? Not Shiva as doesn't hang around long enough to temper all those dragons even in stone vigil. Bahamut? Also no as was imprisoned inside Dalamud since the allagan empire was an empire and is presently in more pieces than a jigsaw under the ground ^^

Could be that the dravanians are survivors and descendants of the Dragons taken from Mercydia (sp) by the Alaagans after they invaded and enslaved them. They got free during the destruction of Allag and set up home in coerthas, then the original "Ishagardians" decided, Ooo nice place to build a castle city thingy, Dragons were like "newp our home" Ishgardians where like "we dun care, it still a nice place to build a castle city thingy an wesa gunna build a city castle thingy, so get off mah lawn ya varmint dragon thingies so we can build our castle city thingy!" and war commenced and the castle city thingy (Ishgard) got built. With lots (well a couple) of castle type outpost thingies too!

[Balipu]

Tempered to which Primal tho? Bahamut? Also no as was imprisoned inside Dalamud since the allagan empire was an empire and is presently in more pieces than a jigsaw under the ground ^^

then the original "Ishagardians" decided, Ooo nice place to build a castle city thingy, Dragons were like "newp our home" Ishgardians where like "we dun care, it still a nice place to build a castle city thingy an wesa gunna build a city castle thingy

And then, one castle turned out to be a Goblin Primal

What if the Dravanians and Mercydians are separate beast tribes? There isn't much difference between Kobolds and Goblins and the Vanu Vanu and Ixal differ in a discount at McDonald's, still all of them have their own primals.

Additionally, we don't really know how long dragons live. They could have been tempered when Bahamut was still loose.

Anyroad if dragoons can stomach taming a dragon I think Au Ra can stomach being a dragoon.

[Brickshouse]

Adding to Sapphic's post about the dravonian horde being slaved by the allagans, and the fact that in the latest patch we catch a glimps of the ascians with the holy see. If ( and its a big if) they are controlling the holy see maybe it is them that are keeping the war going on for so long trying to re-enslave the dravonian horde again like they were during the third umbral era by the allagans. The fact that a humanoid race with dragon features could have been part of the dravonian horde and enslaved. It is possible even in realworld standards we evolved from apes, however apes still exist, why can't dragons still exist and a more humanoid version evolved from it. In chineese mythology the dragon has no ears but it "listens with its horns" so the horns could well be a left over from dragons along with the scales. Another question would be what links do the Ascians have with the Allagans or are they similar?

[Balipu]

Another question would be what links do the Ascians have with the Allagans or are they similar?

Ahh, the million gill question. Based on what Lahabrea said about the Ultima spell we can be pretty sure that the Ascians are older than the Allagans. Wether they corrupted them is, unanswered at this point.

[treuhavik]

To clarify a few things; Davania is a region on our continent, Aldenard, and Meracydia is a separate continent to the south. It was/is the Meracydians who worship Bahamut. This is likely why the Allag enslaved their race, to feed Bahamut while he sat in Dalamund (cue "Answers").

I, personally, don't think the Au Ra are 'related' to any dragon-race we know of, if any at all. A case could be made if we're to look at the origin of all life on Hydaelyn though.

Also, I believe there is very little doubt now that the Ascians are influencing the Arch Bishop. The question now is, to what extent does their scheme permeate the Theocracy? Are all Ishgard's motives extrinsic, have they always been?

[jomoru]

To clarify a few things; Davania is a region on our continent, Aldenard, and Meracydia is a separate continent to the south. It was/is the Meracydians who worship Bahamut. This is likely why the Allag enslaved their race, to feed Bahamut while he sat in Dalamund (cue "Answers").

I, personally, don't think the Au Ra are 'related' to any dragon-race we know of, if any at all. A case could be made if we're to look at the origin of all life on Hydaelyn though.

Also, I believe there is very little doubt now that the Ascians are influencing the Arch Bishop. The question now is, to what extent does their scheme permeate the Theocracy? Are all Ishgard's motives extrinsic, have they always been?

We know from the Heaventurn events that there are explicitly Asian Style dragons in Othard. And Au ra are from Othard. And Au ra don't have wings. And maybe this will shut up the Shiva stuff.

[Balipu]

We know from the Heaventurn events that there are explicitly Asian Style dragons in Othard. And Au ra are from Othard. And Au ra don't have wings. And maybe this will shut up the Shiva stuff.

That did occur to me. The existence of asian stlye dragons I mean. But....that won't work. Look at the horns, especially the male horns. Asian dragons don't have horns like that.
Hey, what if Au Ra are somehow a hybrid of western and eastern dragons. More specificly a female eastern and a male western dragon. That would explain why there is such a significant dimorphism between the sexes and why Yugiri can lead the Domans. Her kind are symbols of wisdom for her people.

[jomoru]

That did occur to me. The existence of asian stlye dragons I mean. But....that won't work. Look at the horns, especially the male horns. Asian dragons don't have horns like that.
Hey, what if Au Ra are somehow a hybrid of western and eastern dragons. More specificly a female eastern and a male western dragon. That would explain why there is such a significant dimorphism between the sexes and why Yugiri can lead the Domans. Her kind are symbols of wisdom for her people.

There's actually a fairly wide range of horn types for different eastern dragons, its just the best known as a particular horn type. SE has done alot of obscure references with the Dravinian Horde so far with western stuff, it wouldn't be out of place to reference more obscure eastern dragons for the Au Ra diversity.

[Balipu]

There's actually a fairly wide range of horn types for different eastern dragons, its just the best known as a particular horn type. SE has done alot of obscure references with the Dravinian Horde so far with western stuff, it wouldn't be out of place to reference more obscure eastern dragons for the Au Ra diversity.

Good point. Still I'm kinda warming up to my sudden crazy idea of asian western union. It might seem odd to be a humanoid creature if both your parents were dragons, but it's not like other fantasy worlds don't have something similar. *cough* nephalem *cough*