Cash Shop: Where do you draw the line?

[Orochimaru]

Despite our feelings about the current version of the cash shop (whether it bothers you or not) it is here to stay since its obviously generating extra money for SE. However, that doesn't mean we cant let SE know when they have gone too far.

We all have that “line” so to speak where we will stop and say ‘enough is enough, this has gone too far. I am done’

So plain and simple, in a few words, where do you draw the line on FFXIV Cash Shop, or, has it already been crossed? And why?

Personally, I draw the line if any of the Golden Saucer content (be it mini game lives/tries, booster packs, ext.) is in the cash shop. (Unfortunately I feel this is inevitable).

Reason: Yoshi mentioned recently that many of the features/improvements requested for housing have been put on hold due to the same team working on the Golden Saucer instead (Saucer being something mentioned way back in 1.0). Seeing how poorly the housing ‘improvements’ have been implemented/received, I wonder what else has been on the back burner for cash shop content.

Feedback is needed on this if we want to keep playing this game we once/still enjoyed. It would be great to see where the majority of the forum users ‘draw their line’ for the cash shop.

p.s. Please refrain from belittling others on their decision/where they stand. Look at this thread as an unofficial poll for SE to see where the forum community stands. We all play this game for different reason, and all of them are valid and as important as the other.

[StrejdaTom]

For me the line is already crossed, why? Promise of Devotion is selling on my server for 19M, which is about the same amount of gil I made in about .. 7 months? This just reached definition of pay to win for me.

Dont get me wrong, I am not against cash shop. I have sleipnir and I bought platinum bonding for me and my friend. I am against cash shop affecting the game.

EDIT: I am not ready to leave this game yet, I still enjoy FFXIV alot but.. I was able to leave Lineage II when it became F2P, I was able to leave Aion, when it became F2P and I will leave FFXIV, when I will become really disgusted with the cash shop.

[Aegis]

For me, the line has passed. Unsubbed.

For SE? I imagine the line is the point where the value of sales they make in cash shop monthly no longer exceeds the value of the subs they have lost. It may be that they lose relatively few subs, or even have no net loss at all, in which case the number and variety of items and services will keep increasing. I think we can safely say that there aren't any specific features which would be 'out of bounds' to some form of monetization.

[o3o]

For me, the line has passed. Unsubbed.

why are you still looking at the forums then???

Also all they sell is vanity stuff on the shop. You can sell the ring if you really wanted to for gil. But I don't think they will be a very high demand item considering how everyone can get the normal one for free.

[Aegis]

why are you still looking at the forums then???

Why shouldn't I? My feedback and the feedback of others like me may help let SE know what aspect of teh game caused us to unsub so they can bear it in mind for future design decisions. From a retail business perspective, findind out why you are losing subscribers is one of the two most valuable types of feedback you can aquire (the other is "What would make me subscribe to this service/buy this product").

[Alef321]

why are you still looking at the forums then???

Also all they sell is vanity stuff on the shop. You can sell the ring if you really wanted to for gil. But I don't think they will be a very high demand item considering how everyone can get the normal one for free.

Vanity is content, its like buying a pepperoni pizza and only getting the cheese pizza, pepperoni its extra 5 $

[Zooters]

Vanity is content, its like buying a pepperoni pizza and only getting the cheese pizza, pepperoni its extra 5 $

Actually toppings cost about $1 extra per topping when ordering pizza. Source - I order a lot of pizza. So you get your pizza for $7.99, but the same size with pepperoni is $8.99. This would be analog with paying for the game, but if you want that one metallic dye that's $1 extra. Right or wrong, that's how it is. The cash shop stuff is extra.

[DeceptionsWrath]

For me, the line has passed. Unsubbed.

For SE? I imagine the line is the point where the value of sales they make in cash shop monthly no longer exceeds the value of the subs they have lost. It may be that they lose relatively few subs, or even have no net loss at all, in which case the number and variety of items and services will keep increasing. I think we can safely say that there aren't any specific features which would be 'out of bounds' to some form of monetization.

I'm currently unsubbed as well. Luckily my sub ended on the 9th anyways and this cash shop patch is unacceptable to me. Sadly I didn't get to say goodbye to my friends, so if you're reading this, love ya all and wish you all the best.

[Kaeda_Valentyne]

I wonder how many people here who apparently "unsubbed" actually unsubbed.

I don't recall getting married mandatory in this game, nor having to buy this stuff to do it. People being over dramatic for nothing.

Here's all the proof you need from me that I unsubbed.

I'm currently unsubbed as well. Luckily my sub ended on the 9th anyways and this cash shop patch is unacceptable to me. Sadly I didn't get to say goodbye to my friends, so if you're reading this, love ya all and wish you all the best.

Mine ended on the 9th as well.

[Black91CRX]

Sadly I didn't get to say goodbye to my friends, so if you're reading this, love ya all and wish you all the best.

Hi Anita. I recently transferred servers. I didn't get to say bye so I figured I'd tell you on here ^^ Take care