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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayve View Post
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...slides/cn20tdc


    Not a revamp, it seems. Just a suggestion.
    Simple enough fix, then. Don't make it connected to weapons. Personally, I think it'd actually make me want to play BLM again if the class was more than just "spam Fire until you're out of MP, transpose, transpose again when at full MP, go back to spamming Fire". I might be oversimplifying things, but that was my impression of the class trying to level it, and I eventually just gave up on it when I finally got Swiftcast for SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkStar View Post
    Simple enough fix, then. Don't make it connected to weapons. Personally, I think it'd actually make me want to play BLM again if the class was more than just "spam Fire until you're out of MP, transpose, transpose again when at full MP, go back to spamming Fire". I might be oversimplifying things, but that was my impression of the class trying to level it, and I eventually just gave up on it when I finally got Swiftcast for SCH.
    Its not like that at the end.
    Blm is the worst job to level in this game. It gets fun after lv40 though.
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    the elemental weakness system got removed because of BLM. I hope they'll bring it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    the elemental weakness system got removed because of BLM. I hope they'll bring it back.
    i will pose a lot of trouble for the balance... and more important, if they don't change them hardware (the server capacity) it will be a pain to play since we will need to get a lot of weapon for one class, actually if you have multiple class (if not all class) to 50 you arsenal is fast filled. don't forget that they will add 3 new jobs with the expansion leading the number of weapon/tool we need if you have all the jobs maxed at 13 combat class + 3 gathering class + 8 crafting class, giving a total of 24.... the max is 25. we can't have different weapon for one jobs, without forget that later they will add more and more jobs.

    another point, the elemental weakness will not be a up for the blm, it will be a massive nerf. since for make up for the boost of the use of the elemental weakness it will recquire to adapt the power of the skill for make them still balanced with other jobs/class. other point, it will lead to a gameplay more fixed per fight. if you fight ifrit you will simply only use ice and thunder, reducing the gameplay more.

    people are always saying it was better with elemental weakness, but it pose more trouble than bring real change in the gameplay of the game.

    ps: don't get me wrong i'm for bringing more to the gameplay of the blm, however, the elemental weakness will bring nothing than a pain in the ass. sorry to say it soo bluntly.
    - for the other jobs, do it will bring something? no, they will simply switch of weapon, them cycle will not change.
    - for the caster class, do it will change them cycle or bring something to the gameplay? no the cycle will be even more fixed and less interesting.
    - then elemental weakness is not usable? probably with the game at it stand, without change a looooot of stuff and bring another system it will be a scraps and useless.
    - which other system? the skill chain and mana burst of FF11, it was allowing to exploit the elemental weakness while bringing a teamwork more important than what we have so far.
    - why not bring it then? because it's not adapted at FF14 gameplay, it will need to be adapted and work on it a lot.... but i'm not sure they plan to change that much them battle system.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 12-23-2014 at 10:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fue View Post
    Its not like that at the end.
    Blm is the worst job to level in this game. It gets fun after lv40 though.
    It's even more simple in end game. You replace transpose with the tier 3 fire/ice. The concept of BLM is nice. A self sustainable caster. The rotation could use a few intricacies, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    It's even more simple in end game. You replace transpose with the tier 3 fire/ice. The concept of BLM is nice. A self sustainable caster. The rotation could use a few intricacies, though.
    What people dont realise is using the elemental whell wont add complexity whatsoever to BLM, in fact it will simplify it even more as you options on what you can use on fights will be reduced. Weak to Ice? use thunder and fire. Weak to Fire? use thunder and ice. Weak to thunder? use thunder. Unless, as in FFXI where thunder was the highest damage was Weak to Fire? spam thunder, Weak to Ice spam thunder. Reistant to thunder, ice and fire? Kick BLM.

    Instead of use all 3 fire, ice and thunder.
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    The elemental wheel wouldn't be too hard to implement if they just kept it simple. Most mobs would have a balanced resistance while mobs like machinery would be a little weak to thunder etc. I'm not expecting this but I am among players who would like a little depth added to combat.

    Kind of off topic, but if they have no plans for things like this, they should get rid of resistance and resistance materias, elemental and physical. Not only are they pretty near useless in the game but they are using memory and resources that could be used for other things.
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    Did they cite a reason for why they're planning to do this? Given the recent set of buffs to BLMs they're probably one of the last jobs to actually need any attention at the moment...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Did they cite a reason for why they're planning to do this? Given the recent set of buffs to BLMs they're probably one of the last jobs to actually need any attention at the moment...
    This was a presentation a player made to Yoshi P, it's not in their plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennika View Post
    This was a presentation a player made to Yoshi P, it's not in their plans.
    The OP certainly didn't make that very obvious. He talks about it as though this were a presentation from SE.

    So this thread is basically just a request for BLM changes with no acknowledgement from SE?
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