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  1. #11
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    Blueskyy's Avatar
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    Frozen Warrior
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    Unicorn
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Know what would be cool?
    PLD has 1 native ability that works on another party member (Cover) and that's it. Right now, both WAR & PLD just feel like you're watching the rest of the party do everything and you're standing there just trying to mitigate damage. It'd be nice to have a more active roll in the party's success rather than just Not Dying to big hits.
    War has eye/path to help team mitigation and tank/ninja dmg. And also i think not dying is really helping the team out. If nobody is gonna stand there and take shit tons of damage and try not to die or give your healer a hard time then who will? Hahaha
    But I do want to see more skills like that. Maybe example PLD cuts his shield oath mitigation by 1/2 and gives team 5% or 10% mitigation for maybe 10sec? (Not sure if 10% is too op) and WAR, cuts his bonus hp from defiance by 1/2 to give 10% hp and heal 10% of the teams hp when activated (Works like thrill of battle heals back the bonus you gave)
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    Last edited by Blueskyy; 12-23-2014 at 08:34 AM.

  2. #12
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    Thistledown's Avatar
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    Mighty Miggles
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 50
    I think WAR will get one useless ability that costs Wrath stacks and removes most debuffs (that could be esuna'd anyways. This sounds like something a game dev might think useful.
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  3. #13
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    Ragology's Avatar
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    Character
    Brown Sugar
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 62
    In pvp, Marauder gets a skill called "thrill of War" that works like a thrill of battle that also affects nearby teammates. ( so everyone gets higher max hp + a free heal) I really like that move.

    I wouldn't mind spending wrath stacks on something like that would make the next war self buff affect all nearby members.

    Sharing bloodbath, berserk or vengeance with the team would be really cool. Just put the skill on a long cooldown if it needs balancing (since Team Berserk sounds overpowered) or maybe just make it so that it doesn't work with berserk. Though it would also be fun if the distributed War buff was random ( maybe the group will get Maim, maybe they'll get foresight, etc.)

    Paladin should get a third part to its MP refill attack ( I forget the name at the moment, Riot Blade was it?) which also grants MP to teammates.
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  4. #14
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    Kenji1134's Avatar
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragology View Post
    In pvp, Marauder gets a skill called "thrill of War" that works like a thrill of battle that also affects nearby teammates. ( so everyone gets higher max hp + a free heal) I really like that move.

    I wouldn't mind spending wrath stacks on something like that would make the next war self buff affect all nearby members.

    Sharing bloodbath, berserk or vengeance with the team would be really cool. Just put the skill on a long cooldown if it needs balancing (since Team Berserk sounds overpowered) or maybe just make it so that it doesn't work with berserk. Though it would also be fun if the distributed War buff was random ( maybe the group will get Maim, maybe they'll get foresight, etc.)

    Paladin should get a third part to its MP refill attack ( I forget the name at the moment, Riot Blade was it?) which also grants MP to teammates.
    It better have a huge hate mod!
    Though that is an idea. The RoH combo is 150+200*3+260*5 = 2050 hate potency.
    As it stands, Fast-Riot is 150+230 = 380 hate potency.
    So how about something like this...
    Make the 3rd part of the Riot Blade Combo an aoe, 250 potency, 3x hate mod. Restores 1.5x the MP that Riot Blade restores, but to the entire party.

    So in terms of 3 GCDs.
    3x Flash = 600*3 = 1800 AoE Hate Potency
    RoH = 2050 single target Hate Potency
    *New Riot Finisher* = 1130 Hate on the primary target, 750 Hate on all other targets, enough MP restored for 2-2.5 Flashes.

    Now if we were to lower the TP cost of Riot Blade and *New Riot Finisher* down to about 40-30, then we can add a good bit of decision making to the PLD rotation.

    1. Raw ST threat = RoH
    2. Raw AoE threat = Spam Flash
    3. Recover MP with maintaining some AoE threat = New Riot Combo
    4. Max dps in Sword Oath = RoH
    5. Less hate generating dps AND self TP AND minor group MP recovery = New Riot Combo

    Options, good...
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    Last edited by Kenji1134; 12-24-2014 at 02:35 AM.

  5. #15
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    Ehayte's Avatar
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    Supply Demand
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragology View Post
    Sharing bloodbath, berserk or vengeance with the team would be really cool. Just put the skill on a long cooldown if it needs balancing (since Team Berserk sounds overpowered) or maybe just make it so that it doesn't work with berserk. Though it would also be fun if the distributed War buff was random ( maybe the group will get Maim, maybe they'll get foresight, etc.)

    Paladin should get a third part to its MP refill attack ( I forget the name at the moment, Riot Blade was it?) which also grants MP to teammates.
    Yes, Team Berserk would be ridiculously OP. And a team MP refill for PLDs (even if it doesn't generate enmity) is also ridiculously OP. Team vengeance? That would be stronger than LB2 for tanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    1. Raw ST threat = RoH
    2. Raw AoE threat = Spam Flash
    3. Recover MP with maintaining some AoE threat = New Riot Combo
    4. Max dps in Sword Oath = RoH
    5. Less hate generating dps AND self TP AND minor group MP recovery = New Riot Combo

    Options, good...
    If by options you mean "I AM A GOD!!!! MUHHAHAHAHAA!!" Then, yes.
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