G>N lock-in system

[seida]

umm... what? So far, the SE staff have specifically ruled that verbal agreements between players are NOT legally binding, and player disputes relating to the breaking of such are not and will not be determined by moderators.

Really? I'm fairly sure I've seen quotes from a GM saying, if the agreement was laid out in text chat showing agreement from all sides, that it IS binding and the mods can do something about it. Ah, above post was made.

Uhhhh, no, actually it sounds entirely fair. For every single person in the group.

I think you miss the point of the OP. This is not random parties, this is specific greed parties where everyone agrees who will get what loot if it drops. If you think it's fair to lie and then take someone else's loot that you promised you wouldn't roll on, don't join those parties.

[Hiruke]

People appear incredibly underinformed about the rules, seeing as they think you can agree to whatever then break the lotting rules of the party because lol. Glad someone posted Camate's post that makes it painfully obvious that isn't true.

No changes need to be made to the system. If you're getting screwed, you need to start placing GM calls, because player-made rules agreements are more than sufficient for PF action.

[Ashkendor]

Uhhhh, no, actually it sounds entirely fair. For every single person in the group.

Uhhh no, it's not fair at all to join a greed party and then roll need. It's also not fair to lot on items other than those you picked. It's pretty simple - if you don't wanna follow the rules set out by the party leader, don't join the party.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

We could have a gil-bidding system where person with the highest bis gets the item, and the gil is then distributed to the whole party.

This way people can secure their items while other people will then have the gil to bid on things they need.

It would greatly favour crafters and spiritbond people though, essentially making the game all about earning gil rather than running dungeons.

Sure, let people who roll in gil have even greater power in an all out bidding war. RMT would make a killing.

[tocsin]

camate made a post about it earlier.

okay, that's better sourcing than I can come up with, so ill definitely accept it and delete my previous post.

I'm sure though that we have had some more recent notes made of moderators in-game being summoned for these reports and saying "its a gentleman's agreement, we aren't getting involved"

[Squa11_Leonhart]

Won't this just cause even more problems? Premades could easily rig the system in favor of their friends.

They do now anyway.

[Dhex]

They need to revamp the system - you should be able to switch your Need roll to a Greed roll or pass after rolling if you feel the need to. They also should add a loot master option...

[Coatl]

Would solve a problem but add new ones. No thank you!