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    Violyre's Avatar
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    Kiriah Aishi
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    When a SCH can solo most of the low level dungeons, you got to have really incompetent people to be failing

    Most of the stuff low level is spank and tank, do you even need to explain or does it take more than 1 sentence? Even if 1-2 people dead, who cares, push it thru
    This...no. Just no. Just because you can solo something doesn't mean everyone else can. It's not all tank and spark, as I've listed something in each dungeon that has a mechanic to deal with and just realized one I forgot.

    I can see why people would want more reward, those are the good people who actually take time to make sure everyone's acclimated. You sound like you can't be bothered and if they die, it's their own fault and they should've known. That just makes more people become as bad as you are.

    I'd like to see increased bonuses happen if you defeat a boss with failing the mechanic AND a new player in the party.
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    Last edited by Violyre; 12-22-2014 at 09:29 PM.

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    ChazNatlo's Avatar
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    Mirasa Thume
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
    I'd like to see increased bonuses happen if you defeat a boss with failing the mechanic AND a new player in the party.
    Given some of the responces in this thread, aren't you worried that would just make people NOT explain the mechanics so that the Noobs fail the mechanic so they get the bonus?
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    Kiriah Aishi
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ChazNatlo View Post
    Given some of the responces in this thread, aren't you worried that would just make people NOT explain the mechanics so that the Noobs fail the mechanic so they get the bonus?
    Not at all. The bonus would be group-based, not player-based. The incentive would only work if no one dies.
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ChazNatlo View Post
    Given some of the responces in this thread, aren't you worried that would just make people NOT explain the mechanics so that the Noobs fail the mechanic so they get the bonus?
    that wastes their time too. I'm pretty sure their main point was LL takes more time than the other stuff that can be done for equal or more rewards
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    I switch to war now for low level roulette, whenever i see a new player bonus I ask the party if they want to kill all and explain each boss. I remember not so long ago i was new to this
    The other day in qarn we had 2 awful dps's, would ignore my signs for mob order.
    On the first boss they would not kill the bees fast enough leaving me to receive double final sting if i had no stun available.
    Honestly thought we were going to wipe but the whm we had was incredible, dps would die to doom but whm kept going raising and raising, around 30% i took another double final sting face hit the floor only whm remains
    She kited till swiftcast was available got me up and we took it down.
    Aslong as you have 1-2 experienced players a low level dungeon is cake
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    Last edited by Stupiduglytaru; 12-22-2014 at 08:10 PM.

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    Zaknafein Do'urden
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    While not increasing the reward, I suppose they could remove the once a day limitation just on this duty. This way high level players could, perhaps, get some kind of reason to run this repeatedly and players that are trying to level up could do so quicker given that they can get the xp bonus multiple times a day.
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    Brianna Blackburne
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathscythe343 View Post
    While not increasing the reward, I suppose they could remove the once a day limitation just on this duty. This way high level players could, perhaps, get some kind of reason to run this repeatedly and players that are trying to level up could do so quicker given that they can get the xp bonus multiple times a day.
    Now this is sensible. Reward the newcomers, not the elitists, they definitely need the sold more than the higher ilvl's do.
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    Altanas Aidendale
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I think the soldiery bonus is just right. You have to bear in mind that you can easily get Easy Primals in Low Level roulette from time to time which offsets the timesink I guess

    The one thing I would like to see added are Allied Seals as a bonus reward because those seals are lacking elsewhere. Indeed I wouldn't mind if the soldiery bonus is simply converted into an allied seal bonus instead. I'm never going to get hold of any other pieces of that rip off allied seal gear since the hunt nerf, and I'm swimming in sol and poe tomes as it is.
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    Cullen Dionysion
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    It's not about explaining bosses or working with newbies for me. It's mostly about getting in parties with people who want the full clears because they, understandably, want the exp. Those runs for the later dungeons can take 35-40minutes easy. I could have ran close to two higher level dungeons in that time and gotten twice the soldiery.

    That being said, there's all the always the chance to luck out and get story Ifrit/Titan/Garuda for quick tomes. But that is fairly infrequent for me.
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    Polyhedral Dice
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Wiped 5 times after explaining titan story last night, nobody would listen to what I had to say to win the fight.
    Wiped once tonight on ifrit due to the new arc not helping kill the nail. I did not explain this fight beforehand, didn't think I had too, but I should have, lol.

    Need more bonus so more people do it more often. People are leveling up other jobs still. There are and will always be, new players doing this, and waiting 30 to do it on top of that.
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