Astrologian Speculations! How will it fit in?

[Ultear_Milkovich]

About Astrologian's LB my bet is that it will freeze or reverse time for 5s or so so that the boss / the mechanics will stop but you will still be able to move / get healed and etc (not to attack imo). Obviously my character would love to get some time based magic lol

in order to reduce the "hack" aspect of such LB and to prevent other healers from becoming useless i suspect that the next fights will have less insta death mechanics.

I mean, "time reverse LB" could save the day in Titan Ex if a healer get landslided out of the ring but it wont help in Ifrit Ex if you cant kill the nails fast enough (given that you cant attack under the LB effect) or if you cant coordinate enough to go through complex mechanics.

My 2 cts

[Spoekes]

About Astrologian's LB my bet is that it will freeze or reverse time for 5s or so so that the boss / the mechanics will stop but you will still be able to move / get healed and etc (not to attack imo). Obviously my character would love to get some time based magic lol

in order to reduce the "hack" aspect of such LB and to prevent other healers from becoming useless i suspect that the next fights will have less insta death mechanics.

My first reaction:

Then I googled and it looks like the Celestial Statis LB may make a comeback, which could introduce a stop mechanic - but stop in my mind makes no difference to a stun in this game.

Time reverse sounds highly unlikely.

[mdha02]

I think astrological sound really interesting. Being able to take the place of a White Mage or Scholar depending on what stance you are in, healing (Tsukiyomi - Moon reader) and shielding (Hoshiyomi - Star reader). if you have a Scholar in your party you'd go Moon Reader stance to be more like a WHM. If you have a WHM in your party you'd go Star Reader to play more like a SCH. I think I remember reading somewhere that changing stances is going to have a long cool down as to not make the Astrologian over powered. I'm definitely going to have to try it out. I am really interested to see how their limit break works also.

[Kuwagami]

nope. They explained it as a "It'll be as if time stopped, and then everyone will be at full HP". Don't get your hopes high for a real time stop

[Ghishlain]

Myself and a couple of FC mates theorize that only the animation for each individual class/job will be unique, but the effect will be the same. So, I imagine AST LB3 would look like they're stopping time and suddenly, everyone is revived, mended to full, etc in some epic looking fashion.

Time will tell. (har har, that bad joke)

[Yuki_Tokita]

I just had to crack such a horrible joke today.

Your joke.

[Ghishlain]

Your joke.

lol, funny enough, I didn't even notice that "joke" until I re-read it on my editing and was like "wow, that's horrible" *Plugs in random comment about terrible joke*.

Back on topic, I'm hoping that if AST is released as a pure healer capacity (despite having difficulties leveling), it would reduce the amount of complaints there are about healers needing to DPS to be accepted >.>; Don't want to DPS, pick AST!

[Cynfael]

lol, funny enough, I didn't even notice that "joke" until I re-read it on my editing and was like "wow, that's horrible" *Plugs in random comment about terrible joke*.

Back on topic, I'm hoping that if AST is released as a pure healer capacity (despite having difficulties leveling), it would reduce the amount of complaints there are about healers needing to DPS to be accepted >.>; Don't want to DPS, pick AST!

As one firmly in the camp of "only lazy/bad healers completely eschew DPS" I truly hope so.

Something tells me those people allergic to work will find something else to complain about, though. Today it's "But I shouldn't have to DPS, and you can't make me!" Tomorrow it will be "Don't make me use my barrier stance or advanced card buffs, I'm a HEALER."

[DarkmoonVael]

As one firmly in the camp of "only lazy/bad healers completely eschew DPS" I truly hope so.

Something tells me those people allergic to work will find something else to complain about, though. Today it's "But I shouldn't have to DPS, and you can't make me!" Tomorrow it will be "Don't make me use my barrier stance or advanced card buffs, I'm a HEALER."

That and/or AST who macro everything with a Yu-Gi-Oh announcement macro. I had a tank in satash HM who did this one, to EVERY SINGLE MOVE. I couldnt really heal very well due to my eyes bleeding so much..............

[Faelandaea]

Not all healers that just heal are bad. I only DPS during the DPS check of a boss fight. I have never had a complaint. In fact I get complimented a LOT because I focus on my job. Most tanks, even undergeared ones, can speed pull with me in their party and be confident they will survive. If a party wipes while I am in the party it's because a large portion of the party missed a mechanic and got one-shot (myself included, sometimes - dodging mechanics is a different story altogether). NEVER has a party wiped because of how I do my job, and I get many commendations as a result. I have been healing MMO games since 1999, and I take great pride in keeping a party alive and kicking.

With that said, on the other end of the stick, barrier stance and mitigation IS healing, and if I choose to play AST, I WILL be VERY happy to use those stances, because mitigation IS a form of healing. ANY good healer knows this, so if I see an AST who will not bend to the party needs as a mitigation expert or healer expert, I will definitely be one of the ones voting to kick and replace. People just do not seem to get the extreme power of good mitigation. As a healer I DEFINITELY notice when the tank is using their CDs and mitigating . . . it makes it SO much easier for me to keep him alive. Good mitigation makes healing MUCH easier, and it makes the chances of surviving a HUGE lot better. On the healer end of things, I would be very happy to have a barrier AST by my side.

People are also so worried that an AST will be in barrier stance in an 8-man party and thus only 1 healer would be healing? Incorrect. Like I said above, mitigation IS healing! It's just PREVENTIVE healing as opposed to CORRECTIVE healing. You are essentially healing BEFORE the hit! I guarantee I would be able to solo heal any fight that has a barrier class mitigating the damage.

I have discussed this with my FC, and during Alex raids, we definitely plan to take advantage of as much mitigation as possible. It's making me excited to roll an AST once the class releases. And it makes me even more happy to know that any good healer out there will know and appreciate good mitigation, and know that I am doing my best to make their job REALLY easy.

I just find it's more noticeable on Healers since Healers who ONLY DPS are absolutely terrible and there are more "things that can go wrong" if a healer messes up.

Oh gods I have noticed this one a LOT. Usually it is in ST or one of the other CT raids that I see this - some healer goes into Cleric Stance and DPS's the entire fight. I end up solo healing the raid. Fortunately for the team I know my bloody job, so I keep them alive, but it WOULD be nice to have some assistance during all those raid-wide hit mechanics, instead of me running all over the circle trying to heal everyone one by one - especially since at NO time EVER will a party be entirely in range for Succor.

I always think that these are the idiots who decided in their minds, "I play a DPS class, but I don;t want to wait for the queue, so I will create a crappy healer which I have no clue how to play just so I can queue faster". The result was nothing more than healers having insane queue times on my server, and a lot of parties getting stuck with healers who absolutely can NOT do their job - ever.

People should only roll jobs they love to do, but MMO games are about patience, and so many players, at least on my server, completely FAIL at patience. If I loved playing Bard, I would not roll a healer just to speed up the queue. I'd stick to my bard, and do crafting or something else while waiting for a slightly longer queue. But hey, that;s just me I guess.