Pre-made parties

[radioactive_lego]

The other day I had a full 4-man party (tank, healer, two DPS) and two of the guys were new (tank, one DPS) for a run thru AmpKeep. It was a pain cuz the tank was someplace around i-lvl 50-55, and just could not take a hit. His skill wasnt bad, just shitty armor, and the newb dps kept switching targets before the "primary" was dead.

I kept thinking to myself; 'self, why didnt we bring two healers? This is a pre-made party, so no class restrictions.'

This got me wondering:
- Do you all find yourselves conforming to the norm even when party makeup is unrestricted? Just the opposite?
- Do you always come with an extra healer or tank to REALLY difficult trials/raids?

[Kuwagami]

AmpKeep. It was a pain cuz the tank was someplace around i-lvl 50-55, and just could not take a hit.

So you found difficult a dungeon you weren't horribly overgearing and what ? That's how it's supposed to be (even though AK is just a joke now. Nothing to compare with 2013 AK...).

party make up is unnecessary most of the time. It's the easy way to do it. People have since a long time gone their way with it. Most HM primals are done 1-1-6, many dungeons can be done 4 dps way, or even solo as a healer. T1 can be done 1-1-6, T2 doesn't require more than 1 tank for enrage so extra dps slot, etc etc...


But to be honest... there is no need for an extra tank and/or healer. Especially in a 4-man dungeon.

[radioactive_lego]

But to be honest... there is no need for an extra tank and/or healer. Especially in a 4-man dungeon.

K. I feel like you missed the point of the topic. I was just wondering if:

Do you find that your pre-made parties differ from the SE standard?
and/or
Do you purposely customize your parties for very difficult content (Ex Primals, T5+)?

[Jamillion]

In 4-man parties I usually conform to the norm, in 8-man groups it depends on content but solo heals and solo tanking is common

[Kuwagami]

K. I feel like you missed the point of the topic. I was just wondering if:

Do you find that your pre-made parties differ from the SE standard?
and/or
Do you purposely customize your parties for very difficult content (Ex Primals, T5+)?

heh you missed my 2nd paragraph or so it seems ^^

Ex Ramuh doesn't need 2 tanks, Ex Shiva doesn't either as it is now the standard in PF. T5 has been done solo tank for ages. Ex Garuda and titan have been done solo heal for a long time too.

T6 is doable solo tank if the party deals insane damage, T7 is definitively solo-tankable now (been to 5% like that following a DC on pull). T8 has always been done solo tank. T9 has been done solo tank and solo heal at the same time... etc.


not counting the 4 rogues parties we made for levelling from 15 to 30

[Deebs]

I've always wanted to try 4 SMNs dungeon runs
when the NIN grind was real I heard of some ppl tryin Satasha 4x ROGs

[Lollie]

Do 3 mrd 1 heal tam taras all the time. Mow the dungeon down in 4 pulls. Only reason it takes 4 is poison stacks become unmanageable around 8-9

[ruskie]

We do fun runs often. At one point 3 whm 1 mrd(ak), 1 sch, 1 smn(titan egi) and 2 dps(copperbell hm, haukke hm), 4 dps tamtara nm(with cross class heals), 3 rog 1 tank toto and so on..., 1 heal 3 dsp sasti nm

Always fun. And all were clears. Don't think we hit a single dungeon yet with our fun runs that we failed at with random parties(and we at times will go dr high for such).

[Kuwagami]

I've heard of a 24 men ST too. they managed to get to xande in the timer, I don't know if they managed to win yet

[LunaHoshino]

We do fun runs often. At one point 3 whm 1 mrd(ak), 1 sch, 1 smn(titan egi) and 2 dps(copperbell hm, haukke hm), 4 dps tamtara nm(with cross class heals), 3 rog 1 tank toto and so on..., 1 heal 3 dsp sasti nm

Always fun. And all were clears. Don't think we hit a single dungeon yet with our fun runs that we failed at with random parties(and we at times will go dr high for such).

Fun runs are the best. I did a 3 DPS 1 heal Tam Tara normal the other day that went more smoothly than some normal party runs I've had.