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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    you are still exaggerating how important it is.
    How important something is, is subjective. I think this is something many people here need to grasp.

    Just because you don't care about something, doesn't mean it isn't important to someone else.
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  2. #22
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    As much as people may want Carbuncles back, there are also people that prefer their faeries or just a general dislike of pikachus.

    So you want them to please you and piss other people off, kay.

    As for the class system, the benefits of the soul crystal outweighs the extra cross-class skills - especially alot of the cross-class skills are weak unless it is enhanced further by a trait later on. Unless the system gets completely revamped, I don't think it is going to change. As for your suggestion of having classes able to ignore game mechanics is pretty laughable as it is going to take away any difficulty of the game that is already designed for casuals.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    As much as people may want Carbuncles back, there are also people that prefer their faeries or just a general dislike of pikachus.

    So you want them to please you and piss other people off, kay.
    I'm only suggesting it for SMN and the egis will always be there - i.e. you are free not to use the pikachus.

    As for the class system, the benefits of the soul crystal outweighs the extra cross-class skills - espec...
    Not sure why cross-class skills are as weak as they are. Classes aren't even good for soloing - so much for the Jobs = group and Classes = solo line of argument.

    I have already explained myself very very clearly in my other thread - not going to rehash the whole thing here; unlike a teacher I'm not paid to explain things until people get it.
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  4. #24
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    Hypocricy is a villianous trait. I'm not saying you are accusing them of being evil or anything, and no, they aren't saints. I'm actually not a fan of the cash shop and the soft handed "please don't sell the wedding bands". However, the idea that if they don't satisfy every idea on these forums that they are hypocrites is taking it a little far. I mean how many requests and ideas do you think they get from the english section alone?

    Mostly what I am saying is that there is a line between say "SE, I think it would a good idea to enable Summoners to summon Carbuncle, whether as it's own summon or a swap out of the egis." and calling them out for not listening to you and bringing up their disdane for the Carbuncle in many of the hreads you visit as an example of a failing of SE's.

    Also, I just think you'd be happier hoping for them to add it in the future than being bitter that they haven't yet added it.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    I can understand if it takes up months or even weeks of development time but this change really is incredibly trivial to implement - as anyone who know anything about programming can tell you.
    I know nothing about programming, so you might be more informed than I am (I'm curious, do you have experience in programming? Could you show us an example of what kind of coding lines would go into making a change like this?) but workload was only an example.

    It's just as likely that the developers have made the choice not to do this because they don't want to. Like you said, how important something is is subjective. They may not view it as at the same level of importance that you do. I think it's fair to say no one does but that's passion I guess.

    The point I'm trying to make though, isn't that you're wrong for asking for a new feature or that the feature wouldn't be cool, but you're not doing it with a lot of tact. It's the difference between "I would love to see this added, please consider it" vs. "The lack of this feature is why I'm not playing, you don't listen to your customers".
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Wait, wait wait... is this a serious thread or an act of absolutely terrible trolling? If it's the latter, shame on you, if it's the former then you have WAY too much time on your hands.

    You're a bit like a small child who has a fit because he doesn't get his own way, and the responses you've received aren't because they disagree with your request but mostly because you're overstating the point even when you've been firmly told 'no'. When a child won't stop screaming until you've said yes, the best way to deal with it is to ignore him until he calms down.

    Seriously, Carbuncle is just a skin. That's it. It makes no difference to the function of the pet, so PLEASE stop complaining or just play as an Arcanist and never have to worry about this again. Or do as you threaten and quit. If you're shallow enough that you simply can't live without this, you can always switch your subscription to Final Fantasy XI where you can keep carbuncle around all day. Just don't expect to be any good at the job.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChazNatlo View Post
    Hypocricy is a villianous trait. I'm not saying you are accusing them of being evil or anything, and no, they aren't saints. I'm actually not a fan of the cash shop and the soft handed "please don't sell the wedding bands". However, the idea that if they don't satisfy every idea on these forums that they are hypocrites is taking it a little far. I mean how many requests and ideas do you think they get from the english section alone?

    ...
    When did I use the word (or words related to) "hypocrite"? But I digress.

    I'm just calling them out on their failure to practice what they preached. No one is perfect. I'm not calling them the devil either for their inaction on that one issue, but their inaction is nonetheless what it is.

    This new SE proclaimed themselves to be more "responsive" to players, I'm holding them to that proclamation.

    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    I know nothing about programming, so you might be more informed than I am (I'm curious, do you have experience in programming? Could you show us an example of what kind of coding lines would go into making a change like this?) but workload was only an example.
    When software developers design their programs, they design with the needs for future adjustment in mind.

    Spells available to classes, their potency values ... etc. all these will be subject to frequently change hence it's common sense to make them as easy as possible to alter - possibly easy enough that the game designers (who frequently aren't tech literate enough to mess with the game code) can alter it themselves.

    It's just as likely that the developers have made the choice not to do this because they don't want to. Like you said, how important something is is subjective. They may not view it as at the same level of importance that you do. I think it's fair to say no one does but that's passion I guess.

    The point I'm trying to make though, isn't that you're wrong for asking for a new feature or that the feature wouldn't be cool, but you're not doing it with a lot of tact. It's the difference between "I would love to see this added, please consider it" vs. "The lack of this feature is why I'm not playing, you don't listen to your customers".
    Well ... it's been over a year (or at least several months) since such a request was made (not by me, I wasn't on the forums until last month). Still no action. Not even a response. My patience has began to wear thin. :/

    They teasing us with bullshot like,



    is not helping. -_-
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 12-21-2014 at 06:04 PM.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    LOL. Well, I'm important enough for you to write a remarkably long post to flame. :3

    Tell you what, why don't you practice what you preach and ignore me.

    Edit: Also LOL at the rage over silly numbers on pixels,

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ear-changes%29

    Over gear that a few months later is dated and irrelevant. You raiders amuse me with your squabbling over such minor matters. Seriously, in a few months the gear and content will be useless.

    See I can do it too.
    The difference is that they actually fixed the thing I posted about days later while your terrible suggestions continued to get ignored (because they're terrible). You sound so mad over a video game that it makes me continue to doubt the mental health of mmo players, please seek help.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    I'm just calling them out on their failure to practice what they preached. No one is perfect. I'm not calling them the devil either for their inaction on that one issue, but their inaction is nonetheless what it is.

    This new SE proclaimed themselves to be more "responsive" to players, I'm holding them to that proclamation.
    More responsive doesn't mean 'knee-jerk' reactive. I can't imagine Yoshi sitting down with the development team and saying "Hey, there's this one guy who wants his Carbuncle back. It's just one guy, but hey he's REALLY vocal about this, so get to it".

    You need to have a little decorum.
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  10. #30
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    To his credit, I believe he has other issues with the game direction. This is just HIS issue, so he's voicing it as loudly as he can. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that if he does quit, this'll just be the cherry on top of his disgruntlement icecream. He has, at the least made comments against the cash shop as well.
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