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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    So "What If I dont want to play War" would my lv 50 Mard just disappear?
    then you're about close to useless to your party and have nothing to do in end game.

    Sorry to say it, but the game has been designed in a way that renders classes useless when the jobs come. In most cases, they're just a hindrance.

    Gladiator ? Useless and can't tank
    Marauder ? maybe the only useful one if you don't need 2 tanks, that's more dps than a WAR. Though you could just bring a real dps.
    archer ? bard does everything the archer does PLUS the songs. Archer is by fact useless. You could argue that you can cast virus or stoneskin but if you have to then there is something wrong in the group
    lancer ? the buffs from archer as cross class doesn't make up for the loss of the jumps
    pugilist ? you're losing too much from monk.
    thaumaturge ? making no sense at all as you're losing a lot of dps and utility, as well as survivability
    arcanist ? once again losing too much to be worth anything
    conjurer ? same
    rogue ? same

    People playing classes after lv30 (apart marauder in PVP) are just a hindrance for their group.

    That said, yes you CAN do end game to an extent with classes. But apart from dps classes you're an hindrance, and even for dps you're underperforming thus you're useless


    (not taking in account people who can't do anything and ruin runs just by the fact that they're unable to handle the mecanics, of course)

    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    Geez, It didnt stop me from clearing all the 2nd coil. Also, its my choice to play a class and not a job and theres nothing anyone can do about it in my PF. Songs are useless if no one needs them, with everyone being over gear for contant now having songs wasnt important to my group. The main point is it CAN be done. I wouldnt do it with any hard core people because most of them cant think out side the box but in a pre-made party it works. It was a experiment and it worked for us. Sorry if you dont like it. ps: I suffered very little DPS lose to the point it didnt matter. 1% dps didnt kill our chances of winning any battles.
    The fact is people just HATE classes. Thats my opinion.
    as I said, I didn't implied you can't. Just that it's pointless and useless, while removing a lot of utility in most cases, and even removing every single bit of utility you may have in the worst case (being gladiator). and btw, archer is the only one not being THAT hindered by removing the job crystal (apart from the stat loss) in their dps if you aren't going to sing anyway. Try doing that as a lancer or a monk and tell me how your dps wasn't affected at all
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 12-25-2014 at 04:13 AM.