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  1. #51
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Honestly what would be a fun idea to allow for challenge to stay in the game is to create a system in which you can lock the il cap and your rewards are influence by your ilevel.

    Let's use alexander for an example. In Normal Mode let's just say they decide no loot drops.

    **To keep it simple I"ll say the entry I level is 110 and the i level cap is 150 (raid drops 140 that can be upgrade to 150)
    For the Hard mode it would work like the following:
    -Item Level=Loot Drop
    Unlimited=2 chest which can have gear for any job
    130=3 chest drops (may drop materials for unique vanity)
    120=4 chest drops (may drop a unique minion)
    110=5 chest drops (all players gain a unique token which can be used to purchase special items)

    And pretty much players could impose their own difficulty into certain dungeons but at the same time be offered new and unique rewards for them. So while some players can say "I just want to beat this" others may want to go that extra mile and challenge themselves for additional loot and to impose this challenge their IL would be limited.
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    This could also be reflected with 4 man dungeon:
    Unlimited= il130 gear drop
    110= gear drops + vanity materials
    100= gear drops + minion + vanity materials
    90= gear drops + minion + vanity materials + special token to exchange for unique items

    Honestly I believe SE could exponentially increase the weight of their content by allowing players to impose their own difficulty while also giving them more rewards from the treasure pool. It would give players a way to hone their skills and take on dungeons that would otherwise be easy given the inflated item level player's can easily achieve in a months time.
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  2. #52
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Phoenix
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Hahahahahahahahaha aaaaahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

    The moment Heavesward was announced I knew Alexander would be in. And apparently they are doing it justice Aaaahahahahahaaaaaa. This is going to be one cool expansion.
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  3. #53
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    Mimmoki Moki
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    So, I never did Coil before the echo, but I can tell you it doesn't make a real difference. If you can't handle the mechanics, you will still get 1 shotted and wipe the raid. I hope they keep the echo out of normal mode and just have it toned down mechanic wise, so we can get an idea of what we can see before we try hard mode. I'd rather a system like that better than watching a youtube video.
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  5. #54
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    Phafi Flailspike
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80
    thanks for the necro.
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    Zackaria Remo
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Phafi View Post
    thanks for the necro.
    well this is all speculation anyway...either way, i deleted.
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  7. #56
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    I think the more important question should be "is Alexander all of endgame raiding the way Coil has been for 2.0?". If everything gets funneled to Alex, that means we'll be exactly where we are now. Was hoping for something along the lines of "Alexander will be one of several high level raids".
    There were some other curious structures shown in 3.0 artwork, like that glowing mountain and the giant white palace thingy.
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  8. #57
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    Ultros
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Who wants to bet people will be begging for echo for normal mode?!
    This would be nice!! Some of us just wanna see the story. Why cant we see the story.....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phafi View Post
    thanks for the necro.
    This thread isn't that old, you can't call it necro.
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  10. #59
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    I feel like if they plan to make them the same then they run into two issues.
    Raid groups can easily build their gear up through normal mode and then tackle hard mode once they are properly geared rather than spending time challenging hard mode
    ppl cleared T13, with ilv110'ish...
    ppl are already properly geard for Alexander HM
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phafi View Post
    thanks for the necro.
    When people use established threads they get harassed for thread necro-ing.

    When people don't use established threads they get harassed for not using the search feature.

    No one can win. Ever.
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