The Heavensward raid: Alexander

[abzoluut]

This is nice!

[razzgrizz3]

honestly i dont see myself doing hard modes if the reward is just titles again.
the time you need to invest to down this content is just not worth it without exclusive loot.

i hope they dont have any high end loot drops in normal modes as this will just homogenize the game even more.

of course the non-raiders are still gonna complain even tho most of them screamed they just wanted to experience the story. we can already see it in this thread


it never ends.

[CGMidlander]

Maybe they can make HM loot dyeable?

[Shug]

I think this is a great idea. You can get the normal mode mastered and at least become familiar with some of the mechanics before going into hard mode. I think like maybe vanity loot drops in story mode and best gear in hard mode.

[Davikar]

Since they said nothing about what will come after the Crystal Tower, I'm thinking they might make normal mode the raid that replaces CT. You would get loot ~10-20 ilvls below the one from hard mode, with a separate lockout.

[KaerisKlyne]

My level of excitement for this is TOO HIGH *spins mercilessly into the future*

Nothing like a holy sentient castle being to put a pep in your step, apparently. I might consider dedicated raiding this time around rather than subbing into Coil fights when friends need a body who can pull weight lol.

[Kiara]

Isn't creating multiple tiers of difficulty on Raids something from World of WarCraft? Yoshi P copying his favorite MMO again?

For WoW experts, please let us know what it was like. I remember reading someone saying in WoW, the lower difficulty you got "welfare / poor man's gear" and you HAD to do the Hard Mode to get the real gear? If it's the case, as someone said earlier, I think most players would just feel compelled to do the "Hard Mode" Only.

[Krr]

For WoW experts, please let us know what it was like. I remember reading someone saying in WoW, the lower difficulty you got "welfare / poor man's gear" and you HAD to do the Hard Mode to get the real gear? If it's the case, as someone said earlier, I think most players would just feel compelled to do the "Hard Mode" Only.

In WoW, a prerequisite to opening Heroic is almost always beating Normal at least once, and Heroic often assumed you had several weeks of attempts of loot saved up from Normal in its stat tuning. The last couple fights of a Normal raid were also often very hard to pug, because of their coordination checks. They also didn't share a lockout, IIRC, so you could keep doing your Normal weekly for Even More Loot after Heroic was open. I think. It's been a while.

Heroic got you the best gear but you couldn't skip straight to it, basically. Though there were a few 'joke fights' that people always set to Heroic if they had it.

Using SCOB as an example, basically, imagine postnerf SCOB set to 'normal mode' and prenerf SCOB set to 'hard mode'. Normal mode would drop, say, i105 gear so it'd still be better than mashing dungeons out all day, you'd need to beat T9 to access 'hard' mode, and 'hard' mode would drop i110 that looks better or is dyable or something.

[Remus]

Well with the new raid you won't need to have cleared coil so that's good for people stuck on T5 :P

[Azper]

It seems like this will be their answer to the "Story Mode" Coil that was brought up awhile back. I'm sure Normal Mode will be plenty challenging, but I definitely see the rewards for it being reduced or removed entirely while Hard Mode is where the real prizes will be at.