ff12 and ff14

[Edellis]

Yeah, 10 is confirmed to be related int FFX-2. Shinra, one of the al behd, is confirmed to be the ancestor of the founders of Shin Ra corporation in FF7. They are not the same world, though, as the FFX world eventually settled other planets via space travel some point in it's distant future. Or FF7's distant past.

The world of VII shares very little with the world of X, even if the planets are completely different the physics of the universes simply do not match up.

- In VII there isn't a single pyrefly in sight, Summons behave differently with no equivalent of fayth, nor is there an equivalent for the farplane, and people don't require sendings on Gaia to avoid becoming fiends. You can literally walk into the farplane in FFX, again, something with no equivalent in VII, else the whole "very important person being dead" thing may have played out much differently.

- In FFX, there's no such thing as Materia or Mako despite there being tons of dead people floating around everywhere, which would be a disaster case in FFVII. Were it the same universe, anyone who walked into Zanarkand (or the farplane) would have likely died from mako poisoning.



If this is a real connection stated by SE, then it was very clearly made up after the fact likely on a whim, with no intention of it happening during either FFVII's initial writing or FFX's.

I put nothing past them for FFX-2 though, it was on a completely different level story wise, just like that terrible novel they wrote and called canon. And if these are the same people who butchered VII's lore to make Advent Children / Crisis Core / DoC happen (and later FFXIII lol) then i'm not at all surprised.

[Kaiser-Ace]

No, not the void. The rift. I got it confused as well but those are different. Like, the void of 5 was imprisoned in the rift. The void is like the underworld.

AS far as we know the only ones directly related are 7 and 10.

14 seems to cherry pick the best of each. Mostly 3, 6 and 7 but plenty of 12 as well.

Ah ok, so the Void and Rift actually ARE two diffrent places. I was under the impression that the two names were interchangable.

[Enkidoh]

Except SE themselves have specifically addressed by stating outright that FFXIV has no direct connection to FFXII, FFXI or any other FF game (it was a post by Bayohne that stated this in a past 'Letter From the Producer Q@A' , originally found here which sadly seems to have disappeared, but I luckily saved the post in question and have included it here):

Q55: There are a lot of names from Ivalice such as Dalmasca, Belias, and Zodiak that have been mentioned, is there some connection between Hydaelyn and Ivalice?

A55: To be absolutely clear, there is no connection between FFXIV’s Hydaelyn and FFXII’s Ivalice. Likewise there is no connection with FFXI’s Vana’diel. Each are their own individual world. Based on this, there are connections between the things that appear in the world, and we’ll be revealing more in the future.

And yes, there is the Void in FFXIV that also appears throughout the FF series as a kind of 'world between worlds', but again, it doesn't mean FFXIV is directly connected to any other FF game. Gilgamesh's appearance in ARR has never really been explained other than a vague "I've found myself in your world" sort of thing, so until SE states outright that he arrived via the Void or by some other means, it is mere speculation.

[lololink]

And yes, there is the Void in FFXIV that also appears throughout the FF series as a kind of 'world between worlds', but again, it doesn't mean FFXIV is directly connected to any other FF game. Gilgamesh's appearance in ARR has never really been explained other than a vague "I've found myself in your world" sort of thing, so until SE states outright that he arrived via the Void or by some other means, it is mere speculation.

Actually, it's both, they are connected and they aren't, but only promo events and comic characters can get in different worlds, so there are no links between the universes but they are linked. Don't try to understand it's magic !

[Kaiser-Ace]

And yes, there is the Void in FFXIV that also appears throughout the FF series as a kind of 'world between worlds', but again, it doesn't mean FFXIV is directly connected to any other FF game. Gilgamesh's appearance in ARR has never really been explained other than a vague "I've found myself in your world" sort of thing, so until SE states outright that he arrived via the Void or by some other means, it is mere speculation.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't shanttoto actually say she got to Eorzia by traveling THROUGH the void during her event? I mean yea we have the Lalafell by a simmiler name that made the stardust rod but this one is the actual one from Vana'diel. So i think that kinda adds grounds to a multiverse. Also no two dimensions in any multiverse actually are connected. The Void or "Primal Chaos" as it's sometimes called is what seperates them not connects them. Only a few indeveduals in fiction can even access the void let alon cross it. And most who've tryed have suffered great cencequences for doing so.

[Enkidoh]

If I'm not mistaken, didn't shanttoto actually say she got to Eorzia by traveling THROUGH the void during her event? I mean yea we have the Lalafell by a simmiler name that made the stardust rod but this one is the actual one from Vana'diel. So i think that kinda adds grounds to a multiverse. Also no two dimensions in any multiverse actually are connected. The Void or "Primal Chaos" as it's sometimes called is what seperates them not connects them. Only a few indeveduals in fiction can even access the void let alon cross it. And most who've tryed have suffered great cencequences for doing so.

Shantotto's appearance in ARR ironically is a direct reference to FFXI though (thus kinda strawmaning my prior post ) - in that she mentioned she arrived in Hydaelyn/Eorzea via a spell that went awry due to her meddling with it - the same spell that sent her across dimensions and kick-started the storyline of her FFXI mini-expansion pack A Shantotto Ascension (she even directly name-dropped the expansion's title in her dialogue).

She didn't state she went through the Void though to arrive in Hydaelyn - she simply said her powers allow for 'interdimensional travel', given the fact her home world of Vana'diel is a tangled web of different realities, parallel universes, pocket dimensions and alternate histories, it stands to reason that a powerful mage such as Shantotto would be easily able to travel between all of them at will. But we're getting sidetracked here.

[TinyRedLeaf]

I think the only thing that's certain is that another one of such threads will pop up sooner or later, and it shows that some fans of the franchise will always want to see links between different Final Fantasy worlds even when the developers themselves officially say there are none. It's the stuff of urban legends. People will always want to believe what they want to believe.

[Sapphic]

One question I've wondered, so many of the Single player Final Fantasy have more technology in them, sprawling metropolis, automated travel (cars, trains etc) yet the MMOs 11 and 14 are more swords and sorcery than advanced tech.

Just wondered why such a difference for the MMO FF games. Albeit the older titles have been more Fantasy, just like from 7 onwards (that I know of maybe earlier if someone can confirm) The worlds have been bent more towards futuristic with fantasy swords and sorcery elements.

Maybe thats why Praetorium for me gives the most Final Fantasy vibe of all the dungeons.

[TinyRedLeaf]

The short answer: Tetsuya Nomura.

He was heavily involved in the designs for Final Fantasy VII, VIII, X and XIII, some of the arguably more "space-age" titles in the franchise.

The worlds have been bent more towards futuristic with fantasy swords and sorcery elements.

I think you'll find that a number of fans of the franchise would disagree with your impression, especially the older ones who have played Final Fantasy games since the beginning. For many of them, the move towards futuristic designs was a departure from the norm, and that's why FFIX was so popular: they regarded it as a return to the franchise's "sword-and-sorcery" roots.

In any case, you'll find that almost all Final Fantasy titles have some sort of "futuristic" elements in them. I, for one, am not overly fond of space-age elements in my fantasy role-playing games unless they are part of its integral design. My favourite title in the franchise, Final Fantasy Tactics, does not feature any faux future designs, and that's likely part of why I love it so much. Contemporary fans liken it to the Game of Thrones, which is an apt comparison. Back when I first played it, I simply loved dark and gritty tone. It was a game filled with ethos and pathos. The other Final Fantasy titles I enjoy are very much in the same vein.

[Brannigan]

My favourite title in the franchise, Final Fantasy Tactics, does not feature any faux future designs, and that's likely part of why I love it so much. Contemporary fans liken it to the Game of Thrones, which is an apt comparison. Back when I first played it, I simply loved dark and gritty tone. It was a game filled with ethos and pathos. The other Final Fantasy titles I enjoy are very much in the same vein.

Well, there's not as much technology stuff in FFT, but they did have the whole ancient super advanced civilization thing going on. Plus, you can recruit a robot that shoots giant laser beams to kill things for you.