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    ff12 and ff14

    So I see a lot of hints of ff12 in ff14 am I missing something is there a conection or is it just the naming
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    There are alusions to most of the final fantasy series in FF14 ranging from FF1 all the way to FF12. Lightning from FF13 even had her own event. So while they are all diffrent worlds, remember that they all have a loose connection via the void. That seems to be the one and only comman factor and possibly what ultimatly seperates all the final fantasy games' worlds from each other.

    So are they the same world? No, the Devs have said Eorzia is in it's own world unrelated from FF11, FF12, ect. Are Ivaliace and Eorzia connected? Only by the void its self which seperates all the worlds of final fantasy.
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    Nope, but the same team worked on both, so there are a lot of similarities, just the cities :
    one in the wood( viera village and Gridania )that live with the spirits of the forest,
    one in the desert(Dalmasca and ul'dah),
    one of pirates(Limsa, Balfonheim),
    an empire ( Arcadia / garlemald ),
    a holy city in a snowy mountain ( Ishgard and whatever was it's name ),
    a city conquered by the empire and where a disaster happened ( Ala Migho and Nabudis ).
    And all the zodiac references ( Ascians/the twelves/eons of Ivalice ).
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    To be fair, most of those are stock RPG tropes.


    Most, if not all, of the references to other FF games are just that, references. They are acknowledging older entries in the series, but this is a whole different world and universe. The Zodiac references are a bit more concrete, but the Dev team has stated time and time again that Eorzea has no link to Ivalice.
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    Unless you use "The Void-Multiverce Theory".

    Basically Each final fantasy taking place, not in a seperate world, but a seperate parallel deminsion that is connected by the void.

    This is the basis theory for the "There's only one Gilgimesh" Paradox. That every Gilgimesh ever encountered is infact the same one that Exdeath cast into the void in FF5, just apearing slightly diffrent as to not stand compleatly out in the diffrrent worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Unless you use "The Void-Multiverce Theory".

    Basically Each final fantasy taking place, not in a seperate world, but a seperate parallel deminsion that is connected by the void.

    This is the basis theory for the "There's only one Gilgimesh" Paradox. That every Gilgimesh ever encountered is infact the same one that Exdeath cast into the void in FF5, just apearing slightly diffrent as to not stand compleatly out in the diffrrent worlds.
    No, not the void. The rift. I got it confused as well but those are different. Like, the void of 5 was imprisoned in the rift. The void is like the underworld.

    AS far as we know the only ones directly related are 7 and 10.

    14 seems to cherry pick the best of each. Mostly 3, 6 and 7 but plenty of 12 as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    AS far as we know the only ones directly related are 7 and 10.
    7 and 10 ? I might have missed that relation >_>

    you forgot the whole bunch of Ivalice games, which are all interconnected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    7 and 10 ? I might have missed that relation >_>

    you forgot the whole bunch of Ivalice games, which are all interconnected.
    Yeah, 10 is confirmed to be related int FFX-2. Shinra, one of the al behd, is confirmed to be the ancestor of the founders of Shin Ra corporation in FF7. They are not the same world, though, as the FFX world eventually settled other planets via space travel some point in it's distant future. Or FF7's distant past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayve View Post
    Yeah, 10 is confirmed to be related int FFX-2. Shinra, one of the al behd, is confirmed to be the ancestor of the founders of Shin Ra corporation in FF7. They are not the same world, though, as the FFX world eventually settled other planets via space travel some point in it's distant future. Or FF7's distant past.
    Yes. As for Ivalice, we have 12, we have tactics which is an ingame book that might be true, might be not. And there is tactics advance that's a dreamworld imagined by an earth kid based on what his friend told him about final fantasy tactics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayve View Post
    Yeah, 10 is confirmed to be related int FFX-2. Shinra, one of the al behd, is confirmed to be the ancestor of the founders of Shin Ra corporation in FF7. They are not the same world, though, as the FFX world eventually settled other planets via space travel some point in it's distant future. Or FF7's distant past.
    I wouldn't take a tongue-in-cheek comment made by Yoshinori Kitase during an interview as 'proof' of that though - it's never been confirmed in any official capacity either in FFVII's Compilation or FFX itself - the character Shinra and his comments about 'planet energy' and 'building a city that never sleeps' is just the same sort of thing as the Ascians having the names of the Scions of Light from FFXII - a name reference for fanservice and nothing more.

    The fact Kitase joked about it during that interview shows even he didn't take the idea seriously and was just having a laugh at the interviewer's expense at actually considering such a ridiculous idea.
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