ff12 and ff14

[liljramos88]

So I see a lot of hints of ff12 in ff14 am I missing something is there a conection or is it just the naming

[Kaiser-Ace]

There are alusions to most of the final fantasy series in FF14 ranging from FF1 all the way to FF12. Lightning from FF13 even had her own event. So while they are all diffrent worlds, remember that they all have a loose connection via the void. That seems to be the one and only comman factor and possibly what ultimatly seperates all the final fantasy games' worlds from each other.

So are they the same world? No, the Devs have said Eorzia is in it's own world unrelated from FF11, FF12, ect. Are Ivaliace and Eorzia connected? Only by the void its self which seperates all the worlds of final fantasy.

[lololink]

Nope, but the same team worked on both, so there are a lot of similarities, just the cities :
one in the wood( viera village and Gridania )that live with the spirits of the forest,
one in the desert(Dalmasca and ul'dah),
one of pirates(Limsa, Balfonheim),
an empire ( Arcadia / garlemald ),
a holy city in a snowy mountain ( Ishgard and whatever was it's name ),
a city conquered by the empire and where a disaster happened ( Ala Migho and Nabudis ).
And all the zodiac references ( Ascians/the twelves/eons of Ivalice ).

[Alice_89th]

To be fair, most of those are stock RPG tropes.


Most, if not all, of the references to other FF games are just that, references. They are acknowledging older entries in the series, but this is a whole different world and universe. The Zodiac references are a bit more concrete, but the Dev team has stated time and time again that Eorzea has no link to Ivalice.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Unless you use "The Void-Multiverce Theory".

Basically Each final fantasy taking place, not in a seperate world, but a seperate parallel deminsion that is connected by the void.

This is the basis theory for the "There's only one Gilgimesh" Paradox. That every Gilgimesh ever encountered is infact the same one that Exdeath cast into the void in FF5, just apearing slightly diffrent as to not stand compleatly out in the diffrrent worlds.

[Enkidoh]

Except SE themselves have specifically addressed by stating outright that FFXIV has no direct connection to FFXII, FFXI or any other FF game (it was a post by Bayohne that stated this in a past 'Letter From the Producer Q@A' , originally found here which sadly seems to have disappeared, but I luckily saved the post in question and have included it here):

Q55: There are a lot of names from Ivalice such as Dalmasca, Belias, and Zodiak that have been mentioned, is there some connection between Hydaelyn and Ivalice?

A55: To be absolutely clear, there is no connection between FFXIV’s Hydaelyn and FFXII’s Ivalice. Likewise there is no connection with FFXI’s Vana’diel. Each are their own individual world. Based on this, there are connections between the things that appear in the world, and we’ll be revealing more in the future.

And yes, there is the Void in FFXIV that also appears throughout the FF series as a kind of 'world between worlds', but again, it doesn't mean FFXIV is directly connected to any other FF game. Gilgamesh's appearance in ARR has never really been explained other than a vague "I've found myself in your world" sort of thing, so until SE states outright that he arrived via the Void or by some other means, it is mere speculation.

[lololink]

And yes, there is the Void in FFXIV that also appears throughout the FF series as a kind of 'world between worlds', but again, it doesn't mean FFXIV is directly connected to any other FF game. Gilgamesh's appearance in ARR has never really been explained other than a vague "I've found myself in your world" sort of thing, so until SE states outright that he arrived via the Void or by some other means, it is mere speculation.

Actually, it's both, they are connected and they aren't, but only promo events and comic characters can get in different worlds, so there are no links between the universes but they are linked. Don't try to understand it's magic !

[Kaiser-Ace]

And yes, there is the Void in FFXIV that also appears throughout the FF series as a kind of 'world between worlds', but again, it doesn't mean FFXIV is directly connected to any other FF game. Gilgamesh's appearance in ARR has never really been explained other than a vague "I've found myself in your world" sort of thing, so until SE states outright that he arrived via the Void or by some other means, it is mere speculation.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't shanttoto actually say she got to Eorzia by traveling THROUGH the void during her event? I mean yea we have the Lalafell by a simmiler name that made the stardust rod but this one is the actual one from Vana'diel. So i think that kinda adds grounds to a multiverse. Also no two dimensions in any multiverse actually are connected. The Void or "Primal Chaos" as it's sometimes called is what seperates them not connects them. Only a few indeveduals in fiction can even access the void let alon cross it. And most who've tryed have suffered great cencequences for doing so.

[Enkidoh]

If I'm not mistaken, didn't shanttoto actually say she got to Eorzia by traveling THROUGH the void during her event? I mean yea we have the Lalafell by a simmiler name that made the stardust rod but this one is the actual one from Vana'diel. So i think that kinda adds grounds to a multiverse. Also no two dimensions in any multiverse actually are connected. The Void or "Primal Chaos" as it's sometimes called is what seperates them not connects them. Only a few indeveduals in fiction can even access the void let alon cross it. And most who've tryed have suffered great cencequences for doing so.

Shantotto's appearance in ARR ironically is a direct reference to FFXI though (thus kinda strawmaning my prior post ) - in that she mentioned she arrived in Hydaelyn/Eorzea via a spell that went awry due to her meddling with it - the same spell that sent her across dimensions and kick-started the storyline of her FFXI mini-expansion pack A Shantotto Ascension (she even directly name-dropped the expansion's title in her dialogue).

She didn't state she went through the Void though to arrive in Hydaelyn - she simply said her powers allow for 'interdimensional travel', given the fact her home world of Vana'diel is a tangled web of different realities, parallel universes, pocket dimensions and alternate histories, it stands to reason that a powerful mage such as Shantotto would be easily able to travel between all of them at will. But we're getting sidetracked here.

[TinyRedLeaf]

I think the only thing that's certain is that another one of such threads will pop up sooner or later, and it shows that some fans of the franchise will always want to see links between different Final Fantasy worlds even when the developers themselves officially say there are none. It's the stuff of urban legends. People will always want to believe what they want to believe.