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    Quote Originally Posted by MBK View Post
    what I meant was, you can't assume any new game to be better than the others just because it's newer

    FFXIV ps3 release won't compete with others because it's the only decent one for ps3 & ps3 MMO players are coming as long as it's good

    as for returning PC players, they will choose the better not newer one
    I didn't. I was mimicking the doom and gloom people claiming X better than Y, X will be Y-killer and X will totally be the next WoW. Which X won't. TERA is dying in Korea before it even gets to the West.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariyaShidou View Post
    I didn't. I was mimicking the doom and gloom people claiming X better than Y, X will be Y-killer and X will totally be the next WoW. Which X won't. TERA is dying in Korea before it even gets to the West.
    I see, sorry for misunderstanding you then

    I thought you were serious ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariyaShidou View Post
    I didn't. I was mimicking the doom and gloom people claiming X better than Y, X will be Y-killer and X will totally be the next WoW. Which X won't. TERA is dying in Korea before it even gets to the West.
    Look, games compete just like every other product.
    If a consumer is trying to decide what MMO to join, they will consider how old it is, its ratings, if there are "special" things that make it stand out, how it compares to other MMO's, its potential future, etc.

    FFXIV doesn't have anything that makes it stand out yet and probably won't for a long time (it can't until jobs are balanced, and balancing jobs takes months. If it didn't we would have had the unique jobs half a year ago)

    FFXIV is already old. Many gamers want to be there from the start and therefore won't join a MMO if its been around for a while. I'm one of them.

    Ratings wise FFXIV is screwed. Most people look for reviews online and look at peer reviews. Gamefaqs's and similar peer-review sites pretty well give this game a failing grade. Even with the best marketing you can't get rid of those reviews. and that causes serious issues.

    And how does FFXIV compare to other mmos? well SWTOR raids make FFXIV look 10 years outdated. I mean they have full voice-overs, actual storyline in raids/group-quests, a system where you can make diff choices and get diff outcomes, etc.

    So how do -you- or anyone else reading this think FFXIV is supposed to relaunch and compete? At christmas they can use the FF name and have specials with major retail stores like best buy to get it underneath christmas trees. But how would the SE marketing team go about convincing ppl the game is good now? Especially when it took one year minimum to fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Look, games compete just like every other product.
    If a consumer is trying to decide what MMO to join, they will consider how old it is, its ratings, if there are "special" things that make it stand out, how it compares to other MMO's, its potential future, etc.

    FFXIV doesn't have anything that makes it stand out yet and probably won't for a long time (it can't until jobs are balanced, and balancing jobs takes months. If it didn't we would have had the unique jobs half a year ago)

    FFXIV is already old. Many gamers want to be there from the start and therefore won't join a MMO if its been around for a while. I'm one of them.

    Ratings wise FFXIV is screwed. Most people look for reviews online and look at peer reviews. Gamefaqs's and similar peer-review sites pretty well give this game a failing grade. Even with the best marketing you can't get rid of those reviews. and that causes serious issues.

    And how does FFXIV compare to other mmos? well SWTOR raids make FFXIV look 10 years outdated. I mean they have full voice-overs, actual storyline in raids/group-quests, a system where you can make diff choices and get diff outcomes, etc.

    So how do -you- or anyone else reading this think FFXIV is supposed to relaunch and compete? At christmas they can use the FF name and have specials with major retail stores like best buy to get it underneath christmas trees. But how would the SE marketing team go about convincing ppl the game is good now? Especially when it took one year minimum to fix.
    there is some truth in what you said,
    but then again, as I said before, this is going to be a ps3 release & that's the majority of players that it's going to attract.
    As for returning PC customers, FF fans are coming back if the ps3 version get good reviews.
    others will look at reviews & see which game is better then choose, that's how it's normally done.
    Again i'm restating, "I'm not disagreeing with you on the polish then release part".
    Just saying that this game has a pretty decent chance
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