My point is with many players being over geared for Dfs there really no reason to speed run at a break neck pace. The mobs will die, trust me. They die really fast at any speed. With everyone being so well geared now its possale to speed run WP without an tank. I did it with a Whm, Nin and a Bard (thats me) we tore up that place. I've been in groups that could speed run PS without even trying to speed run the place. We completed the Df in 14 mins. with deaths and mistakes. I think you could complete PS in under 10 mins now.