Thread: Terminology ?!?! Change 1.19

Originally Posted by KitCat

I don't see the point in that. With the new system, each class IS it's own separate physical level. Have each class be (Mar rank40 phys 40, gla rank 23 phys 23, con rank 42 phys 42) is completely asinine. Pretty much the definition of redundant.

At least it would have let us align our own points for each class... who knows how the NEW system will be like...

Originally Posted by LuciBlack

All they had to do was make every class have its own seperate physical level... but instead they decide to play the "etch a sketch" end of the world game.

What you speak of sounds pretty much like what they are aiming to do... Stats for separate classes, stats depending on the level of the class?

Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

tl;dr verison:

Terminology changes are game breaking.

I actually prefer EXP/level over SP/rank. I've been waiting for this for quite a while. To each his own I suppose.

Same here. I never imagined 2 words being such an insanely massive deal. Meh no point in even trying to be sarcastic or funny.

With all the new additions, terminology is inconsequential, as is the OP.

Oh boy... The mods are gunna have a field day with this one...

Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

and wtf is a tl;dr?

too long didn't/don't read

Originally Posted by Chocobits

Hurray for the removal of such ungodly terms as Rank and SP. Exp and levels {Yes please.} Now if we can just remove the term "Class" so the people jumping oldskool FFXI players for saying "Job" can drag their knuckles back to the cave whence they came.

Actually, that can't happen, as they're implementing the Job system on top of this Class system. So unless you can advice another term for the Jobs while Class can adopt the name of Job, the two are, right now, very different in regards to FFXIV terminology. It's one of the few cases that I've really had to separate the two in terms of core ideals and use.

Originally Posted by LuciBlack

Physical levels will be nixed in patch 1.19, as per popular demand. In light of this change, skill points will be replaced by experience points, and rank renamed level.

System-wise, MMORPGs are generally more complex than their offline RPG counterparts, and this is evident in the jargon they employ. In implementing the above changes in terminology, we wanted to make it so that at least the core aspects of the game can be easily grasped by anyone. We realize that more established players may find this change unsettling, and would like to apologize and ask for your understanding in advance.

It apears SE has no backbone. They cant stick with what they chose. Popular demand? Fuck you all. My weapon does not level up. My weapon does not gain exp. This is a gamebreaker. SE is soft.
There explination makes no sence. The system did make sence. Weapons skill up. There was nothing wrong with weapons skill points and physical levels. I just get more confused what they are trying to acomplish. Its interesting they mentioned "established players", well if your one of them, your upset as me. The less maticulous can redefine shit and call it diamonds and shove it in their mouth and love it to death. The rest of us see a definition and trust its true. Until they pull crap like this. Changing the dictionary is horable. We learn one way, they you force us to ignore the facts, because some idiot said i dont want it that way. Im against this change and any reason for doing so. You may think im silly for getting so frusterated over something that just words. But SE does understand people like me, or they wouldnt have put the apology inside the notation. I dont know what they expect, other than to hope they dont loose too many people for a dumb change like this. I cant fathom how many people would honestly complain that they cant get use to a new system of terminology. This whole game is new, and i wonder how many of the active players actually wanted this change. And how many didnt really care.

I dont expect you to understand im just ranting my furious hate.

I can only hope less than 50% of the replys are some kind of intilectual responce rather than just bullshit responces baces upon my rude chatter.

I emplore you, please be kind, I only state my opinion.

Most of the players dont like physical levels, if you have physical level 50 you are overpowered leveling low rank classes because the point allotments are based on physical levels, they also dont like the point allotment because if you go from say LNC with high dex and str stats to THM you either have gimp stats or have to spend hours realloting points to other stats, the abolishment of physical levels will allow players to allot points based on class, so you play LNC you can have high dex and str, you wanna play THM you can make the class how you want you want to heal with sacrifice up your mnd pie, you want to nuke and DoT up your int and pie, you wanna be a hybrid up mnd, int and pie.

With the current system you cant do that in a reasonable time frame, if they keep physical levels but assign attribute points to class, physical level is useless and there is no point in it.

Also lets not forget we have been playing the game under 2 producers/directors who have differant visions for the game, we are currently in limbo between the two visions, Tanaka wanted class rank and physical levels, Yoshi-P doesnt and Yoshi-P can change it now.

Most of the community was against physical levels for these reasons, and Yoshi-P listened, Tanaka had listened to the alpha and beta feedback the game would not have been in this situation where the whole game needs drastic changes, and look at the positive comments recently on the forums, its all because Yoshi-P is listening and doing what the majority of the community wants.