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    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Indaki Sativa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Hell no to the hunts. Square nerfed the hunts (eventually) to stop people from gaining ilvl too fast after that fiasco. They wouldn't be that stupid (as many people believe) to make the same mistake twice.
    While I don't disagree with your viewpoint towards the 2.3 hunt fiasco...I can't help but believe you are being extremely hopeful.

    I fully expect them to inflate tomes in hunts (more solidery, A ranks giving poetics and more poetics in S ranks) and add the upgrades to poetic gear into the allied seal loot pool with the 2.5 patch. There will only be one more patch after that (2.55) before Heavensward and SE is going to want as many people as possible at the ilevel cap for when that releases. I suspect this time around they will put the carbon items (both of them) into World of Darkness from the get-go as added incentive to do them, but yeah I would just get ready for the disappointment again if I were you.


    On topic: OP the best you can hope for is that SE changes the way they tackle progression with the expansion. There have already been comm. rep posts in the past saying the developers "have no plans" for horizontal progression, for reasons that were very well defined by Kyuven.

    That being said, I would love to see some horizontal progression. I just don't think we will get it in the form that you are hoping for. Many of the playerbase enjoys that instant jump in power every 3-6 months. And ultimately, the type of progression you want is usually gated by horrifically long grinds that isn't very widely accepted (on the forums anyway). Atma threads went on for months....
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    Doctor Pepper
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I disagree because it would discourage people who play a lot from continuing to play once they get to their optimal gear setup. This game doesn't really support horizontal progression right now because there is only a handful of primary/secondary stats so there is always a clear best in slot if you know your role. In my opinion there isn't enough new content every 3 months to keep people coming on strictly for fun and most of the people I know aren't going to play for just vanity.

    In order to support horizontal progression I think they would need to add some special stats, larger content updates and possibly gear swapping. Regardless of which direction they go, some people will never be happy.
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    Ehayte's Avatar
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 72
    While I do like what people are calling horizontal progression, what I think is missing is "Alternative Advancement."

    When you are max level you can grind xp or special dungeons to gain more power (1 level 50 worth of XP would maybe let you buy +1% permanent boost to hit points, up to a 5% total boost).

    THAT would keep HCs logging in.
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    Stouter Taru
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    In order to make gear relevant for a year, you would either have to make it rare or time intensive to get, or you would lose people after a few weeks when there's no worthwhile reward for another year. We might see something like this with the expansion, but the current state wouldn't keep people playing without the increases.

    I hope we get enough content in 3.0 to spread around unique gear that will last until 4.0, instead of just a new coil with a different name.
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    Murah Jhida
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    Lancer Lv 50
    We don't need less ilvl increases, we need a smoother ilvl curve. Each item level tier completely blows the last out of the water, making it a jilted progression with tons of useless chaff.
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    video games are bad

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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Not sure one year but new gear comes out to quickly in my opinion.
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