Please do something about the Skill Points!

[Jabo]

I'm a 33 THM

easy mode: killing rank 43 mob = 225 sp
challenging: killing rank 48 mob = 225 sp

easy mode: 2 star leve in 2,5min = 4000sp
challenging: 4 star leve in 2,5min = 4000sp

same rank 40 leve
challenging as hell: with rank 33 = 3300sp
easy mode: with rank 50 = 4800sp

Why are we being punished for winning tough fights where you need to play skillfull

[TheVedis]

It is well known there is a 10 level cap on SP gains
so fighting stuff over 10 ranks above you is useless if you want more sp


as far as everything else, especialy leves, easy mode vs challenging doesnt say much, why dont you post the ranks of the mobs you are fighting in them so that its more visible whats going on instead of star count


also keep in mind the speed you do leves adds extra sp
so if its more challenging you may actualy lose sp cuz you take longer, the secret isnt to challenge yourself but to find the way to get the most out of it

challenging yourself is your choice after all(leveling isnt supposed to challenge you as much as content is, risk vs reward in leveling isnt the same)

[Jabo]

It is well known there is a 10 level cap on SP gains
so fighting stuff over 10 ranks above you is useless if you want more sp

I'm talking about the rank cap. That it makes no sense.

as far as everything else, especialy leves, easy mode vs challenging doesnt say much, why dont you post the ranks of the mobs you are fighting in them so that its more visible whats going on instead of star count

Why does it matter? I do the same leve with 4 instead of 2 starts. It should be obvious that the mobs have a higher rank and that it's far more challenging to finish a 4star leve in the same time than a 2 star leve.
But to answer your question: 6 ranks. A one star difficulty increas, rises the rank of most mobs by 3.
2 star 36
4 star 42

also keep in mind the speed you do leves adds extra sp

That's why i mentioned the time. It is the same leve. It is the same time. Only the mob rank changed.
Also the time cap seem to be around 4-6min. So if you finish a leve in 1,5min, you still get the same sp. So extra speed increases the skill points only to a certain amount, too.

so if its more challenging you may actualy lose sp cuz you take longer, the secret isnt to challenge yourself but to find the way to get the most out of it

I know how the game works.
It's not that i don't understand how it works now. I don't know WHY it should work that way.

challenging yourself is your choice after all(leveling isnt supposed to challenge you as much as content is, risk vs reward in leveling isnt the same)

Why should levelling not be challenging?
And even if. This is not what i'm talking about. I simply don't understand why we are being punished for accomplishing more difficult situations/fights/tasks.

[DeadRiser]

You gained sp with a r50? o.O

In all seriousness though, I'd like it to be high SP for tough fights including mobs of the same rank.

Kobolds don't offer as much SP as Raptor's and are harder than Raptor's, therefore, no one grinds on Kobolds.

[DoctorMog]

Nevermind.

[TheVedis]

Jabo, 1 big factor in the rank cap as it is for those who already know this

power leveling

the way leveling is set up right now, you base gains in a group on your rank vs the mob

so with a 10 cap that always balances out if you get dragged around

but lets imagine a 20, 30, 40 cap

that rank 50 dragging around a rank 10 fighting rank 50 mobs, how fast is he gonna level?


im not saying you shouldnt challenge yourself though, what im saying is the game doesnt need an increase in skill point gains, its already way too fast for mmo standards

[Jabo]

[QUOTE=TheVedis;290242]

that rank 50 dragging around a rank 10 fighting rank 50 mobs, how fast is he gonna level?

I'm fully aware of the powerlevelling problem.
But why not punish specifically this abuse? Simply let the skill points of one player drop drasticly if the level difference is huge.
We have already a system where we get less skill points if the rank difference is above 5. Why not simply reduce the skill points if the difference is 10, 20 or 30 ranks?
Also, It doesn't explain the leve problem.

im not saying you shouldnt challenge yourself though, what im saying is the game doesnt need an increase in skill point gains, its already way too fast for mmo standards

I never said something about a skill point increase.

@DeadRiser
I have Shield at rank 50, so i can see how much skill points i get with that rank at the same time.

[DeadRiser]

@DeadRiser
I have Shield at rank 50, so i can see how much skill points i get with that rank at the same time.

Ah my mistake.

Anywho. I do sorta agree with not rewarding for killing a stronger mob for same sp.
If you can kill it by all means kill it, but you should be rewarded for it. UNLESS you have a r50 in your party or they are too high of a rank.

[Scape]

the 10 level cap does suck. But, I have been getting much higher sp bonus on my leves on higher difficulty. At rank 49MRD, 1-2 star give me around 4k, but 5 star has been giving me dang near 8k bonus. 7,293 seems to be a common bonus I get for some reason.

[Jabo]

the 10 level cap does suck. But, I have been getting much higher sp bonus on my leves on higher difficulty. At rank 49MRD, 1-2 star give me around 4k, but 5 star has been giving me dang near 8k bonus. 7,293 seems to be a common bonus I get for some reason.

I had the same experience, but leves seem to have a hidden cap, which has something to do with the leve difficulty and the time.
It feels very similar to the 10 rank cap.