Can we please get a Move-Speed Bonus on ECHO?

[kyuven]

Increasing movement speed can disrupt player rhythm as well.
For example, I've actually had the slight increase in movement speed on NIN screw me a couple times since I'm used to running on other classes. If everyone's suddenly running faster, then that can cause more problems than it solves.
Echo is an anti-frustration factor to ensure people who may not be able to handle certain mechanics are able to beat a fight.
For example, some people are capable of clearing t9 and beyond yet still get hit by titan's weights. They are NOT "lesser players" for being unable to do so, though.

[Drako]

Sounds like a good idea to me /signed. I don't have any issues getting out of stuff but there's players out there that may never become the experts some of us are at getting out of stuff, even with lots of practice and memorization. And this little edge could help people out tremendously. And sense its echo, that also means its only going to effect old content, so it really shouldn't be that big of a deal to people. I'd like to remind everyone also that you CAN remove the echo buff if you don't like the hand holding. I'd wager 95% of everyone arguing against additional buffs for echo, doesn't cancel the echo buff on any of the fights though. I'm kind of surprised they didn't up movement speed a little to help combat the server and client lag. As fast as our skill animations are moving you'd think our characters would be sprinting all over the place.

[DoctorPepper]

Well you guys are already getting your story mode for all the raids in Heavenward since they said they would have a normal mode for everything isn't that enough?

My thoughts exactly..

[Barboron]

I wonder how many of you big mouths really survived titan at 2.0, i guess most of you beaten him afterwards! Maybe not with echo but still when he was weaker because better gear!

I beat him in 2.0 so eh...yeah. I would like to point out:

I wonder how many of you big mouths really survived titan at 2.0

If you really like to challenge yourself try it with ghost costume and no echo, just as we did for fun back then...

Such a big mouth. Jumping to assumptions that I hadn't beaten him back in 2.0 just because you want to feed your ego because you beat him in a ghost costume. This thread isn't about feeding your silly ego, it's about adjustments to the echo buff.

[Tiggy]

Currently players avoiding it with outgearing and simply surviving onehit attacks... if i follow your argumentation you should not be able to survive onehit mechanic because its working as intended.
I wonder how many of you big mouths really survived titan at 2.0, i guess most of you beaten him afterwards! Maybe not with echo but still when he was weaker because better gear!
If you really like to challenge yourself try it with ghost costume and no echo, just as we did for fun back then...

Your wild assumptions have no power here.

Also, greater gear won't help you survive a landslide that knocks you over the edge. I disagree with the run speed idea, but you're just completely inaccurate and condescending.

[Azurr]

We have a thing that gives party a speed bonus, its called swiftsong and it is not usable in battle since its clear squeenix sees it as too much of an adavantage just as party-wide stoneskin.

5% or 10% would be too high, but I can see the advantage of 1% increase. Its not going to break the game, but it just might be enough to change insta lag kills to kills due to legit mistakes. 1% is still better than nothing imo.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Currently players avoiding it with outgearing and simply surviving onehit attacks... if i follow your argumentation you should not be able to survive onehit mechanic because its working as intended.
I wonder how many of you big mouths really survived titan at 2.0, i guess most of you beaten him afterwards! Maybe not with echo but still when he was weaker because better gear!
If you really like to challenge yourself try it with ghost costume and no echo, just as we did for fun back then...

I cleared titan before they added ilvls, as MT, with about 4600 hp. I had to dodge every single bomb, have a CD for every mountain buster, and my healers had to put stoneskin and adlo on me when my cd's ran out just to survive mountain buster alone. Even then, that fight wasnt hard. It was just a matter of learning where to stand to avoid stuff.

If I could avoid bombs then, and players could survive getting hit with the occasional weight, then now, if you still have problems, thats your fault.

[Erudain]

I always lol at the "get better internet and rig" comment.
Sure you can upgrade your connection and machine, but you cannot overcome the distance to the server....packets only travel so fast.

In my case I have a pretty good 50mb connection, and a 1 year old top end (by then) rig way above the recommended requirements by the game and I also use WTfast premium with the customized tunneling.....but I still live 9000kms away from the server.....and that's not going to change.
With all that, I get a constant 170-200ms to the server.
Even if I upgraded my connection to 100mb....I would still live 9000kms away from the server and wound't get low pings.

In before the excuse becomes "well, move to the U.S. so you can game, problem solved"

[Yukiko]

Calm down plz...

first: it was a rhetorical question and i wonder why you are trying to defend yourself *giggle*
secund: you should play more DF titan HM matches... out of 8 players mostly 4 or 6 dont get hit...
thats fact, sorry and most parties survive because its no longer oneshoting the players!

Landslide? where did i say that?
I have problems? where did i say that?
assumptions? where did i say your name when talking about "did not survive 2.0 titan"?

If you are so proud of, now just because i got interested: Did you beat him with ilvl 60 or 55, because after release the gear of 1.x was just about 55, i wonder how many darklight pieces you had, 4600 life as tank, well i can guess, try it with healer and 2900 life

[Merylx]

It's frustrating to see how easy people want this game to be. Does no one want a challenge? It is extremely unfortunate for the people on this game/forum to have high latency, but there's nothing that can be done about it - unless you get an internet upgrade (or you're in an area that simply has poor internet.) That, however, doesn't mean everyone should suffer - some people still want challenging content. It would be satirical if SE implemented a movement buff.