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  1. #1
    Player
    Drako's Avatar
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    Drako Lombardi
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Sounds like a good idea to me /signed. I don't have any issues getting out of stuff but there's players out there that may never become the experts some of us are at getting out of stuff, even with lots of practice and memorization. And this little edge could help people out tremendously. And sense its echo, that also means its only going to effect old content, so it really shouldn't be that big of a deal to people. I'd like to remind everyone also that you CAN remove the echo buff if you don't like the hand holding. I'd wager 95% of everyone arguing against additional buffs for echo, doesn't cancel the echo buff on any of the fights though. I'm kind of surprised they didn't up movement speed a little to help combat the server and client lag. As fast as our skill animations are moving you'd think our characters would be sprinting all over the place.
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    Eldarion Telcontar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I always lol at the "get better internet and rig" comment.
    Sure you can upgrade your connection and machine, but you cannot overcome the distance to the server....packets only travel so fast.

    In my case I have a pretty good 50mb connection, and a 1 year old top end (by then) rig way above the recommended requirements by the game and I also use WTfast premium with the customized tunneling.....but I still live 9000kms away from the server.....and that's not going to change.
    With all that, I get a constant 170-200ms to the server.
    Even if I upgraded my connection to 100mb....I would still live 9000kms away from the server and wound't get low pings.

    In before the excuse becomes "well, move to the U.S. so you can game, problem solved"
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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Calm down plz...

    first: it was a rhetorical question and i wonder why you are trying to defend yourself *giggle*
    secund: you should play more DF titan HM matches... out of 8 players mostly 4 or 6 dont get hit...
    thats fact, sorry and most parties survive because its no longer oneshoting the players!

    Landslide? where did i say that?
    I have problems? where did i say that?
    assumptions? where did i say your name when talking about "did not survive 2.0 titan"?

    If you are so proud of, now just because i got interested: Did you beat him with ilvl 60 or 55, because after release the gear of 1.x was just about 55, i wonder how many darklight pieces you had, 4600 life as tank, well i can guess, try it with healer and 2900 life
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    4600 life as tank, well i can guess, try it with healer and 2900 life
    To be fair, if the healer dodges properly all they have to worry about is the unavoidable AoE damage.

    The tank doesn't have a way to avoid things like Mountain Buster.
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Calm down plz...

    If you are so proud of, now just because i got interested: Did you beat him with ilvl 60 or 55, because after release the gear of 1.x was just about 55, i wonder how many darklight pieces you had, 4600 life as tank, well i can guess, try it with healer and 2900 life

    Maybe 1 or 2 darklight pieces, was mostly af and a few hoplite pieces from AK.
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    If you are so proud of, now just because i got interested: Did you beat him with ilvl 60 or 55, because after release the gear of 1.x was just about 55 70, i wonder how many darklight pieces you had, 4600 life as tank, well i can guess, try it with healer and 2900 life
    I fixed it bit
    Highest ilevel gear from 1.x is i70, not i55
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    I fixed it bit
    Highest ilevel gear from 1.x is i70, not i55
    My bad, thanks, darklight is ilvl 70
    No one had full equip that time, but well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Alyssa Edwards
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    It's frustrating to see how easy people want this game to be. Does no one want a challenge? It is extremely unfortunate for the people on this game/forum to have high latency, but there's nothing that can be done about it - unless you get an internet upgrade (or you're in an area that simply has poor internet.) That, however, doesn't mean everyone should suffer - some people still want challenging content. It would be satirical if SE implemented a movement buff.
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merylx View Post
    It's frustrating to see how easy people want this game to be. Does no one want a challenge? It is extremely unfortunate for the people on this game/forum to have high latency, but there's nothing that can be done about it - unless you get an internet upgrade (or you're in an area that simply has poor internet.) That, however, doesn't mean everyone should suffer - some people still want challenging content. It would be satirical if SE implemented a movement buff.
    How does that effect them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    And sense its echo, that also means its only going to effect old content, so it really shouldn't be that big of a deal to people. I'd like to remind everyone also that you CAN remove the echo buff if you don't like the hand holding. I'd wager 95% of everyone arguing against additional buffs for echo, doesn't cancel the echo buff on any of the fights though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    BigPapaSmurf's Avatar
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    Piper Bell
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    Coeurl
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Sure it'd make obsolete content a 'little easier' having 5% or 10% more MS (at max stacks, mind you).

    But the point is to be a handicap for players who struggle to complete content.

    Hence, the disclaimer. Let's please not argue the nature of Echo.

    And memorizing the fight & 'get good' aren't sufficient answers.

    You can't always telegraph every single aoe in the game.

    Many are random placement or random target.
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