Removing mudra GCDs

[Massterchef]

If mudra GCDs were removed and implemented 15-20s mudra CDs and a 0.5s animation, majority of the latency problems with ninjutsu would be nonexistent. The system would be the exact same as what we currently have in place minus the ability to double up mudras.

Why do people double up mudras?

Latency. None of the ninjutsu require two of the same mudra, so it's not commonplace to double up on a mudra unless the user mis-clicks. A mis-click is capable of happening with any skill so the threat of messing a mudra up is still available.

Would regular CDs simplify the system? Yes and no, sure it would decrease the chance of screwing up a ninjutsu, but your rotation remains the exact same as it is now regardless. As it stands now, even at 50 ms, there is still heavy delay in some instances, and with that comes the inability to maxiimize DPS like I can with any other class under the same circumstances. Something needs to change since they claim the delay is something they are unable to fix from a server standpoint.

[Chuloon]

They implemented the .5 second delay to reduce people from just spamming it and to reduce macros for it.

[Massterchef]

They implemented the .5 second delay to reduce people from just spamming it and to reduce macros for it.

The minimum wait time for macros is 1s so a ninjutsu/mudra macro will operate at the same speed regardless. GCDs were made 0.5s so that a manual user would perform at a higher level than a macro-user.

[Chuloon]

The minimum wait time for macros is 1s so a ninjutsu/mudra macro will operate at the same speed regardless. GCDs were made 0.5s so that a manual user would perform at a higher level than a macro-user.

I'm not talking about that kind of macro. I'm talking about 3rd party macros like the ones on keyboards and such.

[Massterchef]

I'm not talking about that kind of macro. I'm talking about 3rd party macros like the ones on keyboards and such.

So mudra delay should never be fixed because people may macro them via 3rd party?

[Chuloon]

So mudra delay should never be fixed because people may macro them via 3rd party?

I'm saying it's what separates the mediocre NIN from the good ones. Any dumb-dumb can memorize a 3 skill sequence and spam them at any rate they wish--a player with skill will adapt to how the system is and maximize their potential.

Do I think it would be a QoL improvement to stabilize lag so it's easier to get Mudras off? Absolutely I do, but that's not really within SE's control. That being said, using Mudras are supposed to be part of the skillset as NIN, and knowing the delay on them is a huge part of mastering that skillset. So yeah, in conclusion, I think removing the GCD from Mudra would be a handicap instead of a QoL improvement.

[monochromicorn]

The minimum wait time for macros is 1s so a ninjutsu/mudra macro will operate at the same speed regardless. GCDs were made 0.5s so that a manual user would perform at a higher level than a macro-user.

That moment when you realize you can make a macro with 0.5s wait times, I know because I do it.

/point
/wait 0.5
/laugh

Works everytime

[Massterchef]

That moment when you realize you can make a macro with 0.5s wait times, I know because I do it.

/point
/wait 0.5
/laugh

Works everytime

You could input /wait .0000001, the game would still interpret it as 1s. It is doable with AHK or other 3rd party programs though.

[StouterTaru]

That moment when you realize you can make a macro with 0.5s wait times, I know because I do it.

/point
/wait 0.5
/laugh

Works everytime

Put 10 of those 0.5s in a row, and see if the time between your point and laugh is 5 seconds long.

You could input /wait .0000001, the game would still interpret it as 1s.

I don't think the game would accept the syntax of it, I think wait fails if you have more than one decimal place. It's been a while, so I could be wrong.

[Spoekes]

I don't know if it is possible for them to make the mudra GCD a clientside thing instead of a serverside that gets crippled by connectivity.
What Chuloon said, they must keep some kind of CD so mudra stay not macroable, otherwise they could remove the system at all, cause everyone and their mum would make 1 button mudra macros.