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    with those weapons and the massively lower time required to get them, I don't personally see why anyone would spend over 100 hours on a single item. Especially considering that there is currently NO content (except T13) that you even need a weapon above ilvl110. And T11-T12 gives you access to ilvl120 weapons.........

    It has been said many, MANY times before.

    If you want to run slightly more challenging (and i mean slightly because Syrcus Tower is a joke) content, then you can acquire very comparable weapons in 10% of the time
    If you do not like party content, prefer easy/grindy activities, and have time to spare, then going after the relic weapon is for you
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    Last edited by Tex_Mex; 12-23-2014 at 11:34 PM.

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    The relic chain is designed for people who are a completionist style of gamer or enjoy spending the time on something unique/bragging rights (not in a bad way I respect those who put in the effort). The chain is great to satisfy that type of gamer. If you aren't, there are alternate equally good upgrade paths achieved by other means such as soldiery (and soon the poetic weapons I'd guess) or gated by content such as coil or ex primals.

    I think the design of the relic/zodiac path is good to appeal to a certain group. Others, like myself, just have to realize it is a quest line not designed for my tastes as I'd rather spend those hours learning primals and SCOB and with my play schedule I sadly don't have time for both.

    I'll continue with my relic chain slowly at my own pace, it just isn't a primary means of weapon upgrades for me
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    tbh its up to you, even though ATMAs are easy to get, the rest of phases still take time and obviously if you arent that fussed over a few stats on 1 piece dont bother.
    Invest your time doing what you want and get the other options which are viable to play end game.
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    Awesome, thanks for all the advice and nice words everyone
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    There is pretty much no reason to go through the relic weapon grind unless you are a casual player with A LOT of extra time on hand. Currently the relic weapon line will take somewhere around 120+ hrs to complete all sections. The reward for that is currently an ilvl125 weapon (likely ilvl135 once 2.5 hits)

    Here are the comparable weapons and the time required to get them:

    Soldiery weapon - ilvl110 - syrcus tower - 1300 soldiery - roughly 10hours
    Shiva weapon - ilvl115 - shiva ex - roughly 10 hours but requires a decent party at this time. Soldiery weapon is a bit easier
    Poetics Weapon - ilvl130 - crystal tower final raid (24 man in 2.5) - 1300 poetics - roughly 20 hours but requires 3 week minimum due to lockouts/poetics cap
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    With i110 being still relevant in most content, and with poetics weapons around the corner, and the incredible time and gil sink required to get anywhere past atma,.. my suggestion to you is to skip it completely unless your bored and just want dat glow.
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    The forums have not changed. Disagree with OP and everyone thinks you are an angry elitist and they call the town with flaming torches. Name calling is cute though, when do you guys get out of grade school and do your parents know you play a big boy game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xakery View Post
    The forums have not changed. Disagree with OP and everyone thinks you are an angry elitist and they call the town with flaming torches. Name calling is cute though, when do you guys get out of grade school and do your parents know you play a big boy game?
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but you were rude to OP. The other posters are angry about people being rude. I am not in grade school and I will not call you names, as I dont want to lower myself to your level. Have a very Happy Holiday!
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    It's not your disagreement with the OP that generated the dislike for you, it was the comments that were included with your disagreement....and wait, you didn't disagree with the OP to begin with. He / she asked a question, should they bother with getting atma, your response was:

    Quote Originally Posted by Xakery View Post
    Really? Why did you even bother to ask? Atmas are super easy to get now and take little time to get. I think someone said the yoshi P said (don't have an actual quote)the zodiac weapons will be the best weapons in the game.
    If you are like so many other casuals then don't bother and be mediocre in this game. What you put in is what you will reap from it.
    Nowhere in your "disagreement" with the OP's original question, was there a disagreement or a response to the question. Just a rude and unnecessary reply.

    ...OP's second reply was how they took a break, started up again on atma and it reminded them of a past gaming experience, to which you.."disagreed" with:

    Quote Originally Posted by Xakery View Post
    It only got "easier" because people like you. I had no issue with doing lots of fates to try for 1 atma. It just meant more GC seals and closer to my 3k fate achievement, which I have now. You should do some research maybe before crying over a video game. Also, I cannot stress this enough, this is not FFXI or any other MMO. This is FFXIV and some of us die hards have been playing since 1.0 launch.
    People like you are cute.
    ...wait, wot? How does any of what you responded with have to do with what the OP was asking or commenting on? It's one thing to be able to read, comprehension on the other hand....well..there was that part about this not being FFXI...

    The fact that you don't even recognize what you wrote was unnecessarily offensive, just goes to show that you are oblivious to the condescending tone you put forth and is acceptable to you.

    Just gonna leave this here...so I can keep it forever.

    Name calling is cute though, when do you guys get out of grade school and do your parents know you play a big boy game?
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    Or people are calling you out because you were a jerk maybe?
    I mean if you are "hardcore" like you have stated you would of had final coil down and would be using Dreadwyrm weapon instead of a Relic weapon. Mayhaps you are the one that is casual
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