Do I need Atma?

[AriaEnia]

sadly, i've found so many elitists like that in duty, especially in those speed runs.

[Blueskyy]

sadly, i've found so many elitists like that in duty, especially in those speed runs.

Sadly he is not even an elitist http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...vement/kind/1/

Haven't beat shiva extreme OR Second Coil of Bahamut turn 9. Im just gonna leave my post here and let everyone think about these people in forums hahahahahaa

PS. He just got to Turn 7 on 22/12

[Ruri]

If you dont want to relic can always get 110 weapons from shiva etc

[Xakery]

If you dont want to relic can always get 110 weapons from shiva etc

or unweathering the soldiery weapons but they'll be obsolete eventually too
the zodiac weapons will keep going?

[RiceisNice]

or unweathering the soldiery weapons but they'll be obsolete eventually too
the zodiac weapons will keep going?

This is in the same line of ilvl 125 zodiac becoming "Obsolete" when the ilvl 135 version comes out. The difference is that you need the ilvl 125 zodiac specifically to get to 135 eventually (versus upgrading from a weathered soldierly, ilvl100 straight to diamond weapons, ilvl 115).

[Garlyle]

You don't "need" to progress your Relic. There's always alternatives. Going to Zenith isn't a bad idea because it's relatively painless for an i90, but even still - you can get an easy i100 weapon with an Unidentified Allagan Tomestone from Syrcus Tower (trust me your competition on this drop will be very low); and an easy i110 if you can upgrade that with a sands of time from the same location/second coil (Might take a few runs, but really, Syrcus isn't hard). And I'd wager that i110 is probably good enough to do everything in the game right now. A possible exception being Final Coil, but you can even get an i115 without ever stepping in there (Turn 9 drop, Shiva EX upgraded weapon) and then an i130 if you can clear the first couple turns, so...

[Gardes]

Atma is pretty easy to get now. If you dont get any atmas by the one hour mark of casually fating (instead of try hard-ing to tag every fate in the zone and clearing as fast as possible), start suspecting something is up and change to another zenith weapon or change zones. I recently completed my 3rd set of atma for blm and was using pld to get the atmas. Majority of the atma stones were acquired within 10 fates. The other ones that took me 3+ hours (about 3 of them), I started getting suspicious and switched to another zenith weapon and on 2 of them, I got them on the very next fate. Could all just be coincidence but I'm basically still saying that you can finish 1 atma set in 1 day or less if you wanted to.

[Synestr]

Quote Originally Posted by Xakery
It only got "easier" because people like you. I had no issue with doing lots of fates to try for 1 atma. It just meant more GC seals and closer to my 3k fate achievement, which I have now. You should do some research maybe before crying over a video game. Also, I cannot stress this enough, this is not FFXI or any other MMO. This is FFXIV and some of us die hards have been playing since 1.0 launch.
People like you are cute.
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Changed it a bit to get your point across mo betta Mr. Happystix:

Because of people like you (actually it was a decision made by the development team to keep the content relative) the hours I spent grinding for pixels to make my other pixels glow harder is invalidated. Your continued lack of desire to not be "die hard" like me, who has many more achievements than you btw (3k fate being one of them), did I mention I got the 3k fate acheivement, and be mediocre, and probably a joy to be around...because, well you are not an A**hat like me, effects my game tremendously. Really, 3k fates, and it does.

You say don't cry over a video game? There were no tears in the OP, just a question. You, son, need to quit acting like a pretentious, spoiled child and CRYING coz Billy wants to play with your toys. Contrary to your belief, you do not belong to any special FFXIV club. Get over yourself, and LTR before you respond.

To OP. Meh do it or don't, your game, your time.

[Itseotle]

You don't need to progress your relic.
110 Sold Wep > 115 Shiva Wep > (patch 2.5) 130 Poetics Wep

I have to agree here. As a Zodiac holder at the moment, the climb to go from Zenith > Atma > Animus > Novus > Nexus > Zodiac, while individually much easier than in the past, in sum is still a monumentous task. Is it worth it? As others have stated, the Zodiac will keep growing. The details of how have yet to be revealed, but they almost assuredly will. So, yes, having a Zodiac is worth having one, especially if it becomes more customizable, but it is my belief that come 3.0 the path to Zodiac will have to be drastically nerffed even further

Why? Because in 3.0 no one will be doing the "old content" that is required to build a Zodiac.

Relic: I'm going to just mention this to give an understanding. Guaranteed drops from 2.0 Primals. This will be old content and thus you can expect very long queue times.

Atma: Fates are here to stay, but the Atma Fates pop in specific 2.0 zones, which will not be as popular (hell even Golden Saucer may see the world empty).

Animus: More 2.0 Fates, 2.0 Dungeon Bosses, and 2.0 open world grinding.

Novus: Materia, Grades 1-4. This step can theoretically doable in 3.0 content, but remember how Spirit Bonding vs Monster level works. Grade 5 materia anyone?

Nexus: Light farming can still be done in 3.0 here as well, so this step may go unchanged.

Zodiac: This is the big one here. It requires chance drops from 2.0 - 2.4 dungeons that will most likely be deserted. Couple long queue times with low drop rates and you have a nightmare step here.

Basically, they will have to change how the Relic process upgrades for 3.0 for new players as most of the old systems will be extremely tedious. Therefore, if you still have not done your Atma, I would suggest waiting for 3.0 and just getting Shiva or Poetic weapons for now.