Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
However, if the DF is there for learning purposes, how can new players be expected to clear content? If a new player is unable to find a group, which they obviously are since they use the DF, how can they clear the likes of T5, only an example, in the DF if it is for learning players only? A player who has learned the first and second, maybe even third, phases may continually end up getting players learning the first phase. See what's happening here? A player who is there to learn is preventing another player from learning.
If you have to use circular logic in an argument, you've already lost.

This really isn't rocket science here. You can watch every video under the sun, but the only way to learn is to experience. The easiest way to do this is the Duty Finder. It doesn't matter whether you agree or not, it's the cold, hard truth. I click a check box, hit a button. Done. I'm in the queue for the next fight. No running around trying to find like-minded players who want to learn or are willing to help others learn (hint, those are REALLY hard to find these days).

So, you're going to be teamed up with inexperienced players. You're going to have to expect not everyone fully understands the fight. Even if they've watched a Youtube video you're going to find players who missed key mechanics doing so. And lastly, you're going to find it more difficult. The chances of you actually being matched with a team thats fully competent are far slimmer than the chances of being mixed with new players.

So, you can either be toxic and deny these people the chance to learn by vote kicking even though you KNEW in advance what to expect, or you can work WITH these players so the next time they show up in the Duty Finder they're a little bit wiser and a lot more beneficial to the team. With posts like these ones in this forum, it's no wonder new players consider our community to be less than welcoming.