Why no further Echo on T9?

[Alkimi]

The dps required for 3 meteors is around 2000. But it's harder to hit that mark in T9 due to the downtime between jumps, but there was a 10% echo to help with that.

the dps required to beat Turn 10 without hitting the soft enrage is a little over 2000.

You are the one who's wrong.

It's around 2050 to kill it with a couple of seconds before enrage. However Meteor on 4 adds (around 65-80k damage depending on your party's weapons) contributes a hefty chunk to the party's overall dps.

Also bear in mind that most people solo tank T9. Nothing in final coil can be solo tanked.

[warren-ragnarok]

T5 a gate ? With potential i120 char in game right now......

T5 is gated behind by players who lack the commitment or desire to raid in further coils at this point.

I pug T5 daily on Tonberry and get a 100 Sol message everytime.....*one-two shot it all the time

you forget lag and internet connection related issues

[Krr]

No amount of Echo is going to change the fact that two ball- er, meteors touching will instantly kill you, getting touched by Heavensfall will instantly kill you, being too far from Heavensfall will kill you, being hit by bad stuff during Heavensfall will instantly kill you, standing in a supernova will probably eventually kill you, and putting lightning/fire inappropriately on a party will kill everyone, and divebombs....well, those are divebombs.

T9 probably won't see mechanical nerfs for a while, given its sacred status as a 'final encounter' in Second Coil.

[Sessurea]

t9 is just mechanics. Get them sorted and you're safe home. Anyone doing correct rotations will be fine for it.

In fact the inflated ilvl and echo cushions dps a bit too much. T10 is a reality check , since u do it in recommended ilvl and w/o echo.

[LunarEmerald]

It's around 2050 to kill it with a couple of seconds before enrage. However Meteor on 4 adds (around 65-80k damage depending on your party's weapons) contributes a hefty chunk to the party's overall dps.

Also bear in mind that most people solo tank T9. Nothing in final coil can be solo tanked.

That's why I said 3 meteors with 4 dps.