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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart View Post
    HAHAHA, no time.

    Bullsh**, you just want your eat your cake without baking it.
    Why do Roulettes have bonus tome rewards at all? Because SE understands that these things are not worth doing on their own. Even someone who sincerely wishes to run low level dungeons to help other players will eventually tire of it. That's a simple fact - none of us are perfect altruists, and all of us want to spend at least some time on activities that benefit ourselves. Tome rewards give folks who otherwise wouldn't bother a reason to help out.

    People on this thread are saying that the incentive is too low. This is an important opinion to communicate to SE. If enough people share that opinion, then the incentive needs to be increased. Otherwise, there will be a reduction in the number of players signing on to assist.

    You can call it greed, if you like, but when folks are paying time and effort, they expect to be properly compensated for it. It's no greedier than working a job in real life and expecting to get paid. In real life, if you feel that you're not getting paid enough, you either get a raise or you quit. If people are quitting Roulette, then it's time for a raise.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    Consider that lv.sync is applied to low level content so that prohibits overgeared players from clearing faster, unlike other kinds of content that offer tomes.
    Ilevel-sync for high level dungeons are coming back with next update.
    Also, queue time for Dzemael and Aurum Vale should be short now since 2.45

    For the other low level dungeons, just double the "role in need" bonus. You want more tanks and maybe healers to queue for this dungeons, not more DPS. Increase the roulette rewards and the wrong people (DPS) queue for it.
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-17-2014 at 08:08 PM.

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    RayneBoemir's Avatar
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    Rhotitar Bhaldeyrasyn
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    I agree with this, I have stopped doing low level roulette; since, the measly soldiery is not worth the trouble.
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    Rhotitar Bhaldeyrasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart View Post
    aww, look at the greedy hyur.

    don't touch it now kids, you'll get infected with greed.
    Yea I am sure you just spend all day helping people, and queuing for low level dungeons to help players.

    This is a matter of effort vs reward. Why do something that can take the same or more time when the reward isn't worth it in comparison to other means of getting such reward. Also hate level synch.
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    J'esshica Clahne
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    I run the roulette every day and I realize it's not the time efficient way to do things (usually anyways...you can get those trials which can go fast) but eh, help others...of course I'm DPS sooo that may not be all that helpful for some

    My suggestion though would be an increase in the Poetics. I would think a higher amount of those would be much more desirable for players looking for a good time vs investment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korilynn View Post
    My suggestion though would be an increase in the Poetics. I would think a higher amount of those would be much more desirable for players looking for a good time vs investment.
    Only if they are part of the "role in need" bonus. You want less DPS there, not more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Only if they are part of the "role in need" bonus. You want less DPS there, not more.
    That might not be a bad idea. Give a boost to Tomes (Poetics or both) for the role in need. It would give encouragement to the Tanks to run the content.
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    Bar Boron
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Only if they are part of the "role in need" bonus. You want less DPS there, not more.
    I think I made a suggestion similar to this in the QoL thread. Give a consistent bonus to the adventurer in need. Watch tanks flood the low level roulette. That way, they can make a decent relic line quest instead of forcing people into low level content. Whoever thought that using the relic line to get people to do low level content...isn't the smartest (please GMs, if you can pass that on to the person with the brilliant idea, I would be thankful).

    Using low level, or previous content, for relic stuff forces people into private parties, away from the people who need them.
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    Zaknafein Do'urden
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    There may be, yet, another solution to this.

    It seems that SE will likely have to make some changes to the leveling system once the expansion comes out. This being that because less and less people are doing the then old content, by the time the expansion comes out, that they might need to make it so leveling is faster, and give other players an incentive to help other players in the process.

    One way I can see them doing this is reducing the amount of xp needed to gain a level from 1-50. If you want people in the new content, it seems logical that this is something that would greatly help in that.

    Another, and on the topic of this thread, could be to get rid of the fact that the daily roulette bonus can only be earned once per day. Change it to being unlimited. Increase the amount of Solidery a player gets to 50-75 per run. This way high level players have an incentive to continue to run these dungeons and players trying to level other jobs can accomplish this faster. It's a win for both sets of people.
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    Last edited by Deathscythe343; 12-17-2014 at 11:37 PM.

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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    You should get the tome bonus even if you're doing the low level roulette on a class that isn't at 50 yet. It would give me a reason to get back to levelling those classes I keep meaning to do and fresh 50's would get a nice buffer to get some good gear straight away.
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