Crafting materials in dungeons and the "need" option

[Bishop81]

Materials are not binding. Even if I cannot use the material, I can trade it for material I can use via the market board.

Kind of agree with OranKells though, I think we are getting trolled.

[Korilynn]

When I first saw dungeon drops, I hit greed, because I thought it seemed like it would be a greed roll for everyone. But I saw everyone was hitting Need. Then I found out everyone just hit need on those items.

Then I thought on it. The problem with your suggestion, is all I have to do to say I NEED it, is unlock the crafting class then sit at level 1. Though is there some dungeon item that's extremely pricey, because every crafting item I've rolled for has been cheap on the market.

[Velo_Vandore]

It's not fair to restrict the items that way. So crafters need the item to craft - why do they need to craft? To make some Gil right? So when someone says I need that for crafting they are basically saying I need that for gil. Everyone needs gil. If I sell the item, a crafter buys it and sells the crafted item for a profit (otherwise they should just sell the raw mats instead). Do you see how it's greedy to want 100% of the profit?

It doesn't make sense anyway since why shouldn't an adventurer be able to gather treasure / materials to sell? The difference with locked gear is that it's untradeable - making crafting mats untradeable would force crafters to farm dungeons which they may not like, and would make the final crafted products much more expensive (less crafters would have access to mats so the supply would be very low in comparison to demand)!

[DrOstler]

Why care when 99% of crafting mats are worth 10gil on the mb anyway. It's a complete joke and a waste of a loot spot tbh

[Altena]

I have all classes at 50, yet the guy next to me deserves a gil drop item (crafting mat) just as much as me, if completing the content. Gil drops such as crafting mats shouldn't be restricted.

[LineageRazor]

Just to throw some extra fuel on the fire...

People brought up the example that tanks can Need on tank gear because, in theory, they need them, right? It's true; I regularly (or used to, anyway) Need lot tank accessories... to level my Goldsmithing desynthesis! Is this an abuse? Maybe. I did it unapologetically and without regret, though. To me, improving my Goldsmith was just as valid a reason for claiming that loot as allowing another person to lot the item to gear up an alt class (or even just trade the item in for GC points).

Materials are the same way. Maybe you can use mats yourself, but that doesn't change the fact that Joe Blackmage over there can sell the mat and use the money earned to improve their own character (or even to buy a mat that THEY can use).

Allowing anyone to lot on mats is fine.

[Kingmanath]

We all know that those materials will immediately end up on the market board.

How do you want to know what exactly people do with these crafting materials? Last time I checked, you didn't know all these players and nobody can say they don't give it to FC mates to craft items for them. Or keep these items for themselves, when they'll reach level 50.

You assume much for knowing little.

[Andriel]

How do you want to know what exactly people do with these crafting materials? Last time I checked, you didn't know all these players and nobody can say they don't give it to FC mates to craft items for them. Or keep these items for themselves, when they'll reach level 50.

You addressed me specifically and I answered to that. When you can't even get the context of your OWN QUESTIONS right, then any discussion with you is pointless.

[paindax]

I love the tags for this thread lol "wah wah wah i'm entitled" "working as intended" "not a bug"
This place actually makes me smile every once in a while.

To OP, yes, please take them off the dungeons, maybe then we can get stuff that we really could use, like the equipment for glam instead of cooking sherry every chest (this happened); but if they don't, you can bet I'm gonna need on every mat that drops and make a profit, your tears are delicious. qq more.

[Kingmanath]

Well in fact I didn't ask you any question but ok ^^