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    Andriel's Avatar
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    G'andriel Ilythiir
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    Ragnarok
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    Botanist Lv 60

    Crafting materials in dungeons and the "need" option

    Only players with the respective crafter class on level 50 should be able to need on these items, as everyone else obviously CAN NOT need them (as they can't use them).

    We all know that those materials will immediately end up on the market board, where crafters like me then have to buy them because we do NOT get them in the dungeons we're supposed to get them.

    Another option would be to just remove them from the dungeons entirely.

    Frequency: 100%
    Party or solo: Party
    Area and coordinates: Every dungeon with crafting materials in chests (that have to be rolled on).
    Steps:
    1. Join a dungeon that has crafting materials (i.e. Sastasha (Hard)).
    2. Proceed through the dungeon until a boss chest drops crafting materials.
    3. Have everyone need on it, despite them being unable to make use of it.


    PS: This used to be a bug report. I won't rewrite the entire post just because some moderator had to move it here.
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    Last edited by Andriel; 12-17-2014 at 09:25 PM.

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    Echoloc Dekaimera
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    The can use them, everyone can. Trade the item for a craft, if they can't do it themselves.

    If only the crafter can need them the price will go up.
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    WAI.

    This is not a bug, and should not have been posted here. This is a whine. Could a mod please move this discussion to the general or crafter forums?


    That said, non-crafters need the items too. They need them for getting gil. Restricting loot to just crafters is silly.

    THAT said, it would be nice if the crafting mats were removed from the dungeons' boss chests. Either they should be given in addition to actual gear, or they should be available in the side chests with the potions. Getting crafter materials should not be in place of actual gear. That's just lame and makes getting the 2.3 "Divine" glamour sets nearly impossible. A new 50 will also have a ton of trouble getting Myth gear because of this change, making ST the only real way for new 50s to gear up when the 2.4 dungeons should have been a legitimate option.
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Of course they need them. They need to sell them because I need to buy them. I don't have much time to devote to running a dungeon just for the crafting material, so I buy them. If only the crafters had them, the prices would be sky high, if they didn't keep them all for themselves, not that they aren't now but not too bad for some stuff. Could use about 100 fine wax and manor varnish, going for the gothic dungeon look for my lower floor in my house.
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    Razai Sylvain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echoloc View Post
    The can use them, everyone can. Trade the item for a craft, if they can't do it themselves.

    If only the crafter can need them the price will go up.
    Yeh she's not saying that she can't need them. She is basically asking for a change to: people who don't have the crafting class at said level of required recipe, should not be able to need the item.

    Which is a very dumb, inconsiderate and selfish request. It basically gives the crafter advantage for market mark-ups vs giving the guy in need of some gil to make a little profit. The way she reported it almost seems like sarcasm and will not be taken seriously anyway...

    I'd give her some cheese to go with her whine, but I'm afraid I'm all out from the whining in other threads...
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    Last edited by Zedd702; 12-17-2014 at 09:14 AM.

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    Everyone needs gil. And I run 2 alts, you say I shouldn't be able to need crafting mats for my 4-star crafting cause I'm running on an alt? Heh, that's cute.
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    Andriel's Avatar
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    G'andriel Ilythiir
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    Ragnarok
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    Botanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    They need them for getting gil.
    Someone that doesn't know the difference between "need" and "greed" probably shouldn't post here.
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Andriel View Post
    Someone that doesn't know the difference between "need" and "greed" probably shouldn't post here.
    Ok, then by your own words, you should stop posting.

    Nobody has any kind of priority on material drops.
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    Chris Something
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 66
    i'd actually be for it. i'd much rather all of the mats be removed from dungeons and placed in other places. it's all worthless junk anyways so good luck making very small amounts of gil off them
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by lxChrisxl View Post
    i'd actually be for it. i'd much rather all of the mats be removed from dungeons and placed in other places. it's all worthless junk anyways so good luck making very small amounts of gil off them
    The prices would go up if nobody would do the "other places" because they are busy with running dungeons.
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